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Seems to me they are making the cost of living a normal comfortable life especially for the millenials so prohibitive that they jump at things like UBI and a socialised system run by the state.

Seems to me they are making the cost of living a normal comfortable life especially for the millenials so prohibitive that they jump at things like UBI and a socialised system run by the state.

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[–] 7 pts

No it isn't. I am compensated via a paycheck.

The only thing stolen here are your brain cells.

If I paint a portrait of someone and sell it to them for 50 dollars - was the painting stolen? Was my labor stolen? No, it was exchanged to an agreed upon amount of capital. This is an exchange, not theft. Unless you are a literal slave, no one is "stealing" your labor.

If you are stupid enough to agree to 7.25 an hour flipping burgers - you arent being exploited, you're just dumb. You can start your own burger place any time you want. Go buy the land and build the restaurant and be your own boss then. Literally nothing is stopping you.

[–] -2 pt

Partially compensated. You made them way more eye than you are paid, and you accept that.

[–] 2 pts

Yes. I made them more than I was paid. And that's perfectly fine.

Do you know why? It's because without them my pay would be $0.00

I make $32.00 an hour. So lets say I provide the company with $35.00 worth of labor. They pay me 32 and keep the difference. That means that $3.00 was stolen from me, according to you. But it wasnt. I work in THEIR building, on a laptop THEY purchased, using electricity THEY pay for, and land THEY own, selling products THEY designed to customers THEY sourced.

They have the ability to sell electromechanical parts to anywhere on the planet. I do not. They have the infrastructure to move goods and gather funds. I do not. So that "excess capital" that they are "stealing" from me is not vanishing into the aether. It's being used to provide TO ME all those things I cannot provide.

They didnt steal 3 dollars from me. I purchased, with that 3 dollars, the use of their entire infrastructure in order to exchange my labor for a fee instead of surviving off what I could scrounge and scavenge from the woods.

Literally over a centuries worth of effort went into making my employer the company it is today. Just because I show up 5 days a week and answer some Emails does not entitle me to that.

You don't get to be the CEO Yum Brands because you flipped a burger once.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

I work in THEIR building, on a laptop THEY purchased, using electricity THEY pay for, and land THEY own, selling products THEY designed to customers THEY sourced.

The dude you're arguing with claims he is part of a worker cooperative successful enough to allow him to retire early and travel the world. Ignoring how ironically bougie that would be, it's clearly a lie given he, like every other socialist, can't seem to grasp these basic facts.

The biggest mistake they make is conflating themselves as individual with "the work". Yes, "the work" does need to be done, and "adds value" to the company. But the worker, the actual individual, is able to be replaced by a billion people. Or soon enough, robots.

I wouldn't be surprised if your company is billing your hours at 85$ an hour.

they are literally making you work FOR them.

l2account and finance

talk a lot of shit for knowing nothing.

[–] 0 pt

Nahh man, the company should provide all that for free and not make any profit. They should be driven into the ground, for the good of the employees. /s

[–] -2 pt

Incorrect, they stole 3 dollars from you, per hour.

[–] 0 pt

No shit.

Why the fuck would I employ someone who doesn't profit my company?

You're a fucking retard, buddy.

[–] 0 pt

Why do you need to steal from someone else?