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Seems to me they are making the cost of living a normal comfortable life especially for the millenials so prohibitive that they jump at things like UBI and a socialised system run by the state.

Seems to me they are making the cost of living a normal comfortable life especially for the millenials so prohibitive that they jump at things like UBI and a socialised system run by the state.

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[–] -6 pt

The value you create through "work" it is stolen from you.

[–] 7 pts

No it isn't. I am compensated via a paycheck.

The only thing stolen here are your brain cells.

If I paint a portrait of someone and sell it to them for 50 dollars - was the painting stolen? Was my labor stolen? No, it was exchanged to an agreed upon amount of capital. This is an exchange, not theft. Unless you are a literal slave, no one is "stealing" your labor.

If you are stupid enough to agree to 7.25 an hour flipping burgers - you arent being exploited, you're just dumb. You can start your own burger place any time you want. Go buy the land and build the restaurant and be your own boss then. Literally nothing is stopping you.

[–] -2 pt

Partially compensated. You made them way more eye than you are paid, and you accept that.

[–] 2 pts

Yes. I made them more than I was paid. And that's perfectly fine.

Do you know why? It's because without them my pay would be $0.00

I make $32.00 an hour. So lets say I provide the company with $35.00 worth of labor. They pay me 32 and keep the difference. That means that $3.00 was stolen from me, according to you. But it wasnt. I work in THEIR building, on a laptop THEY purchased, using electricity THEY pay for, and land THEY own, selling products THEY designed to customers THEY sourced.

They have the ability to sell electromechanical parts to anywhere on the planet. I do not. They have the infrastructure to move goods and gather funds. I do not. So that "excess capital" that they are "stealing" from me is not vanishing into the aether. It's being used to provide TO ME all those things I cannot provide.

They didnt steal 3 dollars from me. I purchased, with that 3 dollars, the use of their entire infrastructure in order to exchange my labor for a fee instead of surviving off what I could scrounge and scavenge from the woods.

Literally over a centuries worth of effort went into making my employer the company it is today. Just because I show up 5 days a week and answer some Emails does not entitle me to that.

You don't get to be the CEO Yum Brands because you flipped a burger once.

[–] 0 pt

No shit.

Why the fuck would I employ someone who doesn't profit my company?

You're a fucking retard, buddy.

[–] 0 pt

Troll gonna troll. Must be nice to get paid thanks to the fruits of capitalism to bash capitalism. Do go on and tell me how Bernie can still win.

[–] 0 pt

Nope, you spend your time and labor in exchange for a share of the employer's profits, the amount of which is subject to negotiation. A clever legal framework designed by forward-thinking leaders will ensure that the balance doesn't tip too far towards one side.

[–] -1 pt

You sound like a cuck. Shouldn't you get the full value of what you produce

[–] 1 pt

You seem to have below average intelligence and you have some psychological issues to sort out. No use hearing what you have to say.

[–] -1 pt

You made the profits. Why shouldn't you get them?