They are fundamentally the same. They hypnotize weak minded people with promises of "universal good" without ever delivering a viable plan for delivery of those goods. But once the sheep are hypnotized they no longer care that there is no plan, they will follow orders without question.
That is why no two socialists will give you the same answer to very basic, pragmatic questions like "how". How does a factory of thousands function when everyone's opinion has to have equal weight even though most of them are morons. No two socialists can answer that question the same. That is not true for Capitalism. So what exactly are the socialists agreeing to? Noting more than platitudes like "the workers should own the products of their work". With these ultimately meaningless platitudes they are herded like cattle to push for a system that will never work how they imagine because no two even imagine the same system.
Instead the result can only be a totalitarian structure where a tiny minority of people control everything. That is the only possible final result. That is why every single "socialst" society ended up like that. It is inevitable.
What is also inevitable is that once those people have the power of tyrants afforded under socialism they will capture the remaining power and simply take they next step into communism.
Socialism promises equality by sacrificing all control of business to the elites. But equality is never achieved. So with that same exact lie they will simply claim that equality will be brought with the sacrifice of control over every other aspect of life. That is why socialism is just communism lite. It is just a stepping stone to communism. They make the exact same promise except socialism claims it will give equality in exchange for business control and communism requires business control and property control. It's literally the same shit.
How does a factory of thousands function when everyone's opinion has to have equal weight even though most of them are morons.
That's communism, not socialism. Modern communists conflate the two because socialism is actually a good system, whereas communism is rightfully rejected by anyone with two brain cells to rub together.
Socialism is simply the government regulating the economy when needed. This is a definition so broad as to be meaningless, however it's NOT the nationalization of all industry or the abolition of private property. That's communism. Under socialism you can own a for profit business so long as it's not harmful to society (no selling heroin or dumping toxic sludge) and you treat your workers fairly.
The US is a socialist country. OHSA, FCC, SEC, etc, this is all socialism. The problem the US faces is that it errs on the side of capitalism rather than on what benefits society. The great con of the Republicans is to do what their donors please in the name of "the free market."
Both capitalism and communism are nightmare systems. One strips all communal good from the economy, the other strips all personal good from it. You need both and this is what National Socialism is. A man is measured both by his personal success as well as his contribution to society as a whole. Janitors and cook would take pride in their work and be respected as important parts of the system, not be scoffed at because they don't make $100k/yr.
The goal of communism is to have jewish bureaucrats control everything, the goal of capitalism is to have jewish capitalists control everything. The reason everyone is terrified of national socialism is because the goal is to create a cooperative spirit between the working and capital classes. There was no place for foreigners, jews, crooks and usurers. It was so effective that the NS Germany economy was the most efficient and productive the world has ever seen.
Socialism is simply the government regulating the economy when needed.
That is literally exactly what we have with capitalism.
Communism is no property rights what so ever. You dont need money, everyone takes from the commons what they want.
Socialism is property rights but no buisness rights. The means of production are common goods and everyone uses them to produce. Or rather everyone gets an equal share of all money earned and they can buy and own private property.
You have no idea WTF you are talking about. It doesn't make any sense. What you describe is exactly what exists under capitalism, so how can it be a different form of government? It mazes zero sense.
What you describe is exactly what exists under capitalism
To the extent it does it's because the US system is, as I mentioned, not capitalism. Economists call it a capitalism/socialism hybrid. All the problems we have are because of the capitalism aspect. Capitalism is a totally free market. Anyone can buy and sell anything. We don't have that, never have. However we don't have enough controls on what can be bought and sold. There is no reason to allow foreigners to own property or invest in bank/media/defense. There is no reason to allow usury and financial speculation. This is why capitalism fails. kikes and chinks are able to take over the media, banks and use them to subvert and destroy the nation. Corporations gain monopolies and act recklessly. Whenever politicians talk about free trade or the free market, they're allowing our enemies to prey on us.
National Socialism explicitly prohibits this sort of thing.
The reason everyone is terrified of national socialism is because the goal is to create a cooperative spirit
Wrong. People dont want socialism because it always ends the same way. Venezuela, Soviet union, and china.
You dont get to re define what socialism is and call others ignorant for not agreeing to your new definition. If you use the word socialism and dont mean gov controlled buisness YOU ARE USING THE WORD WRONG.
You have been tricked by socialist to argue for their ideology, and you don't even believe in their ideology.
Stop calling a regulated buisness market socialism.
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