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Seems to me they are making the cost of living a normal comfortable life especially for the millenials so prohibitive that they jump at things like UBI and a socialised system run by the state.

Seems to me they are making the cost of living a normal comfortable life especially for the millenials so prohibitive that they jump at things like UBI and a socialised system run by the state.

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[–] 2 pts

Yes. I made them more than I was paid. And that's perfectly fine.

Do you know why? It's because without them my pay would be $0.00

I make $32.00 an hour. So lets say I provide the company with $35.00 worth of labor. They pay me 32 and keep the difference. That means that $3.00 was stolen from me, according to you. But it wasnt. I work in THEIR building, on a laptop THEY purchased, using electricity THEY pay for, and land THEY own, selling products THEY designed to customers THEY sourced.

They have the ability to sell electromechanical parts to anywhere on the planet. I do not. They have the infrastructure to move goods and gather funds. I do not. So that "excess capital" that they are "stealing" from me is not vanishing into the aether. It's being used to provide TO ME all those things I cannot provide.

They didnt steal 3 dollars from me. I purchased, with that 3 dollars, the use of their entire infrastructure in order to exchange my labor for a fee instead of surviving off what I could scrounge and scavenge from the woods.

Literally over a centuries worth of effort went into making my employer the company it is today. Just because I show up 5 days a week and answer some Emails does not entitle me to that.

You don't get to be the CEO Yum Brands because you flipped a burger once.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

I work in THEIR building, on a laptop THEY purchased, using electricity THEY pay for, and land THEY own, selling products THEY designed to customers THEY sourced.

The dude you're arguing with claims he is part of a worker cooperative successful enough to allow him to retire early and travel the world. Ignoring how ironically bougie that would be, it's clearly a lie given he, like every other socialist, can't seem to grasp these basic facts.

The biggest mistake they make is conflating themselves as individual with "the work". Yes, "the work" does need to be done, and "adds value" to the company. But the worker, the actual individual, is able to be replaced by a billion people. Or soon enough, robots.

[–] 1 pt

I really want to understand why these commie shitbags all feel like they should just be handed everything in life.

One of my first jobs as a child was washing cars for people in the neighborhood. A few guys had some really nice cars. One guy I remember had a corvette and this was the 1980s so they were still cool. But at no point in my mind did I ever think to myself "So what if he worked and took 5 years to save up the money to buy this nice car....I pushed a sponge across it for 10 minutes so it deserves to be mine"

Are socialists just the niggers of political ideology or something? Their entire system of economic theory seems to boil down to "gibs me dat. I be the victim. Gibs"

[–] 1 pt

The reason we need socialism is because it demolishes the economy, ushers in a totalitarian age, and then the original idiot socialists are the first ones put up against the wall and shot. I’m willing to put up with oppression for a generation just so their stupidity can be culled.

I wouldn't be surprised if your company is billing your hours at 85$ an hour.

they are literally making you work FOR them.

l2account and finance

talk a lot of shit for knowing nothing.

[–] 1 pt

Yes......this is how capital works. It's nothing more than a means of exchange.

You don't even have a grasp on the most cursory fundamentals of economics. Do you think maybe this is why communism has a 100% failure rate? Because the only people dumb enough to try it are the same people who are so fucking stupid they can't even comprehend the concept of an exchange?

But please tell me more about why capitalism is bad on your computer running off electricity and exchanging data over a global network. You can go starve to death in a hole in the ground any time you want. Go be a communist as much as you want, just let us know if you prefer to be buried or cremated after you waste away

fuck all your isms and labels.

im simply saying that the system your fat ass loves is a failed system that exploits america.

this is how capitalism always ends, with politicians being bought.

ALL SYSTEMS only work in an environment where niggers don't exist.

just bring duelling back and capitalism will work.

[–] 0 pt

Nahh man, the company should provide all that for free and not make any profit. They should be driven into the ground, for the good of the employees. /s

[–] -2 pt

Incorrect, they stole 3 dollars from you, per hour.

[–] 3 pts

So according to you, the one and only possible transaction that can be made with capital is the theft of it by one party from another?

It's no wonder communism has a 100% failure rate if the adherents are all so unfathomably stupid as you.

Tell me why you think you should own a company that is already established and successful just because you showed up one day. Or better yet - lets cut the shit and you just explain why you are so lazy and entitled. Why exactly are you owed something when you provided absolutely 0 effort, time, or funds in the creation of that thing. If I build a log cabin in the woods with my bare hands, why do you feel your should now own the cabin because you knocked a leaf off the roof?

[–] -2 pt

I built a cooperative company. The value you create is yours.

People should make the value they create, why is that bad? You want to steal from others?