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Background

My aunt has been a big part of my life since the day I was born, and has become essentially a second mother. Both my parents are divorced, but they still get along perfectly fine. In fact, for many years, we had a schedule where my brother and I would go back and forth to my dad's and mom's house. Nowadays, whenever my mom needs something done, my dad and I are the ones driving over to help out at her house. My mom comes over every once in a while for dinner. My dad said it's thanks to my aunt that it ended up this way, since she's actually a divorce lawyer. Beyond that, she's been heavily involved in my education, and has actually managed to get me out of certain classes she deemed as "non-essential". Unfortunately social studies classes didn't count. Growing up, we also had a baby sitter that acted as a third mother. Once she left, my aunt took the role of preparing dinner for us. Until recent years, and especially before the pandemic, this system worked pretty well. I got both the love of a mother, and a father that would drag me out of the house and get me moving when I didn't want to.

Politics

When it came to politics, convincing my parents and my aunt of any redpill dropped over the last 5 years has been unsuccessful. She and my parents both trust the media 100%, especially CNN. My brother and I are forced to watch it with them almost every night at dinner, no exceptions. Other times it's the local news, but that can be just as unbearable. It hasn't torn the family apart, but it has lead to several confrontations over the years. My aunt in particular is very adamant in her beliefs and has no room for debate. Let me give you a recent example. Before the capitol siege on January 6th, my aunt and I had a debate about the Proud Goys, Burn Loot Murder, and Pantifa. She said that the Proud Goys were just as much of a threat as the people burning down businesses all last summer. "Actually, a lot of those times, far right groups were infiltrating antifa and blm to cause chaos!" I asked her if there was a single instance of that happening, in which she replied "The FBI has done investigations on it!", to which I asked "And have there been any results from that? Has there once been a single article on far right groups infiltrating peaceful left wing protests and then proceeding to burn businesses down?" She paused for about 5 seconds before admitting that there was not any. Fast forward to the 6th, and she called me to rub it in my face that right wing groups are in fact just as dangerous! "Rioters last year didn't storm a government building!" I was tempted to mention the ICE building in Portland was vandalized every night, but I knew she would simply say that the capitol building is of far more importance.

The Breaking Point

I decided to discuss with my aunt about days of rage and the capitol bombing of 1983. A woman named Susan Rosenberg was arrested after authorities found a large cache of explosives and firearms over 750 lbs and automatic weapons in her car. She was supposed to serve 58 years in prison, but only served 19 because Bill Clinton pardoned her on his last day in office. Why? No one fucking knows because . I also noted how this woman went on to become a part of the board of directors for Burn Loot Murder. Her response was "That's a good thing! That means she's changed and is trying to do better! People can change!"

To add a bit of spice on top of this, we had another discussion about . She was perfectly okay with the man getting arrested since he could have gotten other people sick.

Want more? I got more! In our most recent conversation, I talked about how Garda, Ireland's police force, . She's perfectly fine with this as well. I asked her if she would be fine with checkpoints here in the US, and she replied "It depends on the reason. Something like this pandemic is a good reason." I then asked her "And do you think it would be temporary?", in which she replied "Yes."

In conclusion, is this woman even worth my time? She's been a big part of my life, and I do love her since she's family. However, it's become apparent to me that she doesn't hold any pro-American values. She's also very controlling over my life, specifically with my school work and how I take care of myself. I hope all of that changes once I get my degree...

**Background** My aunt has been a big part of my life since the day I was born, and has become essentially a second mother. Both my parents are divorced, but they still get along perfectly fine. In fact, for many years, we had a schedule where my brother and I would go back and forth to my dad's and mom's house. Nowadays, whenever my mom needs something done, my dad and I are the ones driving over to help out at her house. My mom comes over every once in a while for dinner. My dad said it's thanks to my aunt that it ended up this way, since she's actually a divorce lawyer. Beyond that, she's been heavily involved in my education, and has actually managed to get me out of certain classes she deemed as "non-essential". Unfortunately social studies classes didn't count. Growing up, we also had a baby sitter that acted as a third mother. Once she left, my aunt took the role of preparing dinner for us. Until recent years, and especially before the pandemic, this system worked pretty well. I got both the love of a mother, and a father that would drag me out of the house and get me moving when I didn't want to. **Politics** When it came to politics, convincing my parents and my aunt of any redpill dropped over the last 5 years has been unsuccessful. She and my parents both trust the media 100%, especially CNN. My brother and I are forced to watch it with them almost every night at dinner, no exceptions. Other times it's the local news, but that can be just as unbearable. It hasn't torn the family apart, but it has lead to several confrontations over the years. My aunt in particular is very adamant in her beliefs and has no room for debate. Let me give you a recent example. Before the capitol siege on January 6th, my aunt and I had a debate about the Proud Goys, Burn Loot Murder, and Pantifa. She said that the Proud Goys were just as much of a threat as the people burning down businesses all last summer. "Actually, a lot of those times, far right groups were infiltrating antifa and blm to cause chaos!" I asked her if there was a single instance of that happening, in which she replied "The FBI has done investigations on it!", to which I asked "And have there been any results from that? Has there once been a single article on far right groups infiltrating peaceful left wing protests and then proceeding to burn businesses down?" She paused for about 5 seconds before admitting that there was not any. Fast forward to the 6th, and she called me to rub it in my face that right wing groups are in fact just as dangerous! "Rioters last year didn't storm a government building!" I was tempted to mention the ICE building in Portland was vandalized every night, but I knew she would simply say that the capitol building is of far more importance. **The Breaking Point** I decided to discuss with my aunt about days of rage and the capitol bombing of 1983. A woman named Susan Rosenberg was arrested after authorities found a large cache of explosives and firearms over 750 lbs and automatic weapons in her car. She was supposed to serve 58 years in prison, but only served 19 because Bill Clinton pardoned her on his last day in office. Why? No one fucking knows because [he never gave a reason](https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-107shrg76344/html/CHRG-107shrg76344.htm). I also noted how this woman went on to become a part of the board of directors for Burn Loot Murder. Her response was "That's a good thing! That means she's changed and is trying to do better! People can change!" To add a bit of spice on top of this, we had another discussion about [a man arrested in Canada after his neighbor reported on him for having 7 people in his home when he was only allowed to have up to 6](https://web.archive.org/web/20210103160526/https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/americas/canada-covid-19-lockdown-arrests/index.html). She was perfectly okay with the man getting arrested since he could have gotten other people sick. Want more? I got more! In our most recent conversation, I talked about how Garda, Ireland's police force, [were giving fines to people for "non-essential travel"](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/covid-19-about-1-500-fines-issued-for-non-essential-travel-over-past-two-weeks-1.4467518). She's perfectly fine with this as well. I asked her if she would be fine with checkpoints here in the US, and she replied "It depends on the reason. Something like this pandemic is a good reason." I then asked her "And do you think it would be temporary?", in which she replied "Yes." In conclusion, is this woman even worth my time? She's been a big part of my life, and I do love her since she's family. However, it's become apparent to me that she doesn't hold any pro-American values. She's also very controlling over my life, specifically with my school work and how I take care of myself. I hope all of that changes once I get my degree...

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She needs to learn the pathological behaviour behind all this gaslighting and control.

Show her this! https://files.catbox.moe/0386w2.JPG

She will not be able to go a single day without realizing she is ruled over by people that would get a kick out of torturing and killing her. Then she won't be happy with any of this situation.

You can wake her up this way without triggering any of her brainwashing.

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My aunt is not someone who can read between the keys (pun intended) like that. She's a boomer like my parents. I guess I can send it to her and see how she reacts... for science!

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A lot of those are also well leveraged by shills and the demoralized. Good share.

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re "People can change" Can you find tweets, articles etc from blm Rosenburg that shows she didn't change? Overall, just bring up stuff that contradicts the news, use leftist sources, ask the question and then leave it at her answer. Over time, she'll wake up or continue to make excuses, but you'll have addressed issues. If she is a lawyer, she is used to a world of gray, and that nothing is black and white as the MSM tries to make it, but you'll be able to determine if it is more black or more white.

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How fast can she run a mile?

She can barely walk since she's been in a boot for over a year. She fractured her foot by not wearing supportive shoes on her treadmill.

[–] 2 pts

Yea you don’t have to wake her up.

You should prep her household for a “global warming weather event”

And that’s about it.

of course she's worth your time but depending on her age you won't be able to change her thoughts or opinions much. Politics are not worth losing an important part of your family over. I laid out a 500 word treatise to my fambly on the berg about trump's accomplishments and still got unfriended because "he's so stupid!". Make your points- then let it go.

It's hard to let it go when they insist on watching CNN or the local news at the dinner table. NOTHING good ever comes from those moments. I wish we could just go back to eating dinner together without the TV. I remember when we didn't have a TV in the kitchen...

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Left wingers are always controlling. Just ignore her.

She considers herself a moderate...

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Wow. Amazing. I have a friend who considers himself conservative. He watches TV all day and half the night because he's disabled and doesn't realize how badly informed he is. Yes, he constantly comes to me to update him on what's really going on because it calms him down and I just tell him, "Open up the laptop I gave you and search it out. Shut off your TV and stop listening to liars". Sometimes he calls me over because he just has to show me some BS he's recorded. I listen to it for a couple minutes and tell him, "Dude, I'm not interested in blatant lies" "Oh, but you have to see this" "NO I DON'T. I don't listen to lies I know all about".

One day I bitched about mask wearing and he said, "Well, if it saves on life it's worth it" which brought on a lecture from me about all the lives it's cost as suicides mount every day while big pharma makes trillions on the scam. Now I've got him so scared he's vowed to never get a vaccine but he still wears a mask when he goes in a store like a sheep. He couldn't believe it when I walked in our local grocer's and didn't wear a mask. I laughed and told him that over time with many arguments with staff, managers and CEO they have finally stopped bothering me. They hate it but now just accept I won't wear a mask.

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The only two types of people you should try to redpill are people fit for combat and white women who haven't yet had children. Is she part of any of these?

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Nah, keep it up if only for the lulz.

No rabbi. Stop trying to destabilize

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I wouldn't give up. She is your family and has done a lot for you, you owe it to her to not give up. And even if she argues with everything you say, there is still a chance that some little seed you plant will eventually start to grow.

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A lot of questions rise from your background story but I'm not sure I care to ask them.

Instead ask yourself: What good will come from redpilling this woman? What do you imagine happens once you do? Will that make yours or her life better/worse?

Your situation sounds like you were well taken care of and have a rare opportunity to live on easystreet but you are wanting to derail that for some reason.

I would not use the term "derail". My whole life has been on rails. I'm not trying to throw away opportunity here. It just pisses me off that my family, with the exception of my brother, completely trusts the media and our government. That blind trust could get us all in deep shit down the road.

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I understand your concerns for what will happen to your family, but you were asking if you should stop trying to redpill your aunt. My questions still stand unanswered.

What good will come from redpilling this woman? What do you imagine happens once you do? Will that make yours or her life better/worse?

(You are not obligated to share the answers here, and probably shouldn't, fuck this place.)

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Seeing the truth is categorically better than wandering about in a dogmatic fog of falsehoods. You may as well ask why it is better to be free from pain than to be in agony.

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