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He followed my gaze over at the other guys on the other side of the tank and then looked at me even more embarrassed.

Aww. Should've sent him back to the first guy to ask for a "long-stand."

He called me outside to show me how he coiled up my welding cable just outside where I was welding.

Ohh, so it was like an inductor? Isn't that dangerous though?

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I'm just a welder so I barely know what an inductor is. I'm assuming it's a coil to control voltage?

I found this out by accident when I was new in the trade. Having a long cable for welding it sometimes is longer than what you need and it's just laying about getting underfoot while you might be in a small space so one day I had it coiled up and placed it on a beam I was welding on.

I started welding and instantly the weld puddle went all crazy with molten metal just being pulled out or flung out of the puddle. I assumed the coil might have something to do with it so I took it off the beam and suddenly, I could weld normally. Put it back and the same thing happened.

I figured it was like an electromagnet? Later I started reading up on it and realized what I was doing and how even if you put the coil away from where you are welding, it still throws your voltage and amps off what the meter on the machine is telling you your settings are. So, it doesn't matter what you put your settings on, you won't get a smooth bead. Just very aggravating to the welder.

The best technique for dealing with your excess cable is to lay it out and not coil it up or at least lay it out in such a way as you are not making tight coils.

When air arc gouging out bad welds we use a carbon rod in a holder that shoots air along the rod to blow out the weld as the rod melts it at the tip. The current we run for that process is much higher than welding, say around 300 to 500 amps.

At that amount of current it's so much more you can easily see it's effect on loose metal bits.

One day I happened to touch the rod to steel while I had my hood up and noticed a that where I had the cable in a coil a bit of welding rod stood straight up in the center of the coil. Very interesting. Also, every tiny bit of metal fragments stood up on it's tip to align with the magnetic field. Just like if you put a magnet close to steel shavings. Same thing.

Also when just welding normally steel shavings will line up along your welding cable. When you stop welding and move to a new area if it's a nice smooth plate of steel you are working on, when you move your welding cable to get to the work that needs to be done you can see a nice outline of weld shavings where your cable had been.

No matter what you do, as your current flows through the cables it's going to create a magnetic field around your cable. That is a natural thing that applies to any metal you run a circuit through. Wires in electronics use this to control current, modify it, change voltage, etc. An electronics engineers knows all about this. This is how they make current for microwaves and other stuff. When I've taken apart such things I can see the design of some of the components. Same principle in motor windings. Current goes through the wires and creates a field around the wire.

Coil up a welding cable and you are just replicating some of the components in a motor winding. Concentrating the fields into a larger stronger field.

Oh, BTW , did you notice Poal went down last night ?

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Yeah, all electrical wires generate magnetic fields. If you coil it up it enhances the field and makes it bigger, it also resists change in voltage (that's what inductors are for) and generates a lot of heat. They can go on fire if there's enough power running through them.

Didn't notice it no.

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So, you seem to know about electronics, obviously more than I do. I think this is closely related to how a Tesla coil works? The transformers in a microwave work to control voltage? I've watched lots and lots of videos about electrical stuff and maybe because I got into welding fresh out of high school and have no education on the topic I have a bit of difficulty getting my mind around how electricity actually works vs the commonly held ideas most people have.

Like for instance, the shininess of conductive metals. I watched one video where it was explained that we are actually looking directly at the electrons around the actual atoms that make up metals. Then too, most welders work with straight polarity. Rod positive, work piece negative. The welders get the idea that current is flowing from the rod or electrode into the work piece when it's actually the other way around. The electrons are flowing from the negative side into the positive side and so you have the arc above the puddle and work while the molten metal sprays down into the work and the puddle because it's attracted to the incoming current coming up out of the work.

So, back to what you wrote about how the coils restrict For deep penetration we do have a process called flux core welding. Actually it's a bit of a misnomer as straight polarity wire feed also has a flux core but combined with a gas shield to protect the molten metal. That's more commonly known as dual shield welding. With the flux cored welding wire you use reverse polarity and the wire actually goes down below the surface of the parts being welded, creates a zone where the wire is burned off in the arc and the flux melts to rise up to the surface of the puddle.

Since there's no gas shield and only flux if you use straight polarity the wire burns off above the surface of the puddle and the work piece and has to go through some air to get there. The oxygen in the air will cause the molten metal to partially burn so you get a very poor weld that's brittle and has defects like porosity. Reverse polarity so your wire is negative and it welds very nicely. Try that with dual shield and it won't weld properly. Same with most stick welding jobs where you are using rods coated with flux. Some rods however have a different composition that works better with reverse polarity but since they aren't commonly used in the field we don't even consider it unless we are told which for me was never.

When I went to weld school many years ago we had a machine set up for just flux core and I suppose at the time I knew it had the polarity reversed but in the field, we always used dual shield until I was on a job where for the first time in many years they had brought us flux core wire for a process. I totally forgot and tried welding without reversing the polarity of my machine. Kept getting porosity, got pulled off that detail, yelled at and told I was a shitty welder but no one checked why and I didn't remember until I was fired at end of shift and thought about it. Then suddenly I remembered. Dammit.

Back to inductors how they cause the voltage to resist change. Are there inductors in our welding machines that we are controlling with a dial that we set? If so, having a coil in our welding leads messes up the settings so we aren't getting the reported readings of voltage at our work?

Hey, I noticed something very interesting on a tank job. So, the set up is that we have our power supply places at close to where we cut out a large door sheet to get into the tank with sheets of steel and other equipment. In this case during set up some safety idiot complained about the ground cable and wanted it as close to my work as possible. So, basically wanted me to not only run my welding cable to the work site but wanted the ground cable running there also. It made no sense but I did it anyway. The current was way too low, settings were way off and voltage was pathetic, so much so I could barely run a decent bead no matter what I tried. So I set up a short ground cable onto a bolt I welded directly to the tank as close to the generator as possible. Everything was working perfectly then. Being very curious I got out a testing meter and checked resistance of the longer ground cable and it was as expected. The longer it is, the more resistance in the cable. I checked resistance from the tank to where I was welding and went to a couple other spots much further from the machine to test. Through that huge steel tank resistance was almost nothing. Even my welding cable had normal resistance. It's the same distance so why so little resistance through a huge tank but much more through a copper cable if the distance is the same?

Only thing I can think of is that a huge two hundred foot diameter tank has so much more mass that the resistance goes down to negligible. The safety inspector demanding I put a long ground cable to the work area as well as my welding cable was effectively doubling the resistance. So, she was making me try to weld with a machine that was never designed to push through that much cable and I couldn't get the proper current even though I pegged out the dials. Looking at the meters on the machine was no help at all since they would be wildly off reality. After that, when setting up power sources I used larger cables and hard welded on tabs I could bolt onto with copper fittings, Enough to carry the load for all guys that would be welding. Don't want to do the math? Then easy rule of thumb is, if your ground cables are getting hot, or connections are overheating they are either too small for the load (You'll know by touch because they get hot), too long (stays cool but you won't get proper current) or the connections are not solid (gets hot directly at the connection and will even melt and or catch fire).

I never had a problem when using these simple rules to trouble shoot before even starting to weld. If stuff did overheat it was usually at a connection that would end up smoking. Simply cut the cable back a bit to fresh copper that looks clean and bright, wrap cable end in a copper sheet, (yes, it's in the tool supply) and tighten it down super tight until you can't tighten down any more. It would be nice if the suppliers included some sort of spray or paste to put on connecters. I haven't seen that on a job.

Of note how stupid this safety bitch was, she complained to plant manager about how dangerous our weld arcs were and made us put up shields every where to the point of being ridiculous. It did no good at all to explain to her that from 30 feet it's no more dangerous than a strong light. Just stay away, right. Nope, she didn't even want to SEE an arc ever. So we had to bring in more shields to protect people OUTSIDE the tank. WTF? Don't look through the door sheet or other access. Just walk by and don't look in and you're good. Nope. It's radiation. Uh, ya, like the sun is radiation in many spectrums. Try looking at the sun? Who does that? Who stares at the sun? No one, cause it's painful and can obviously make you go blind.

Then she totally destroyed her credibility. She walked inside the tank, came over to my work area and was bending over looking under the gap at the bottom of the shield and complaining that light was escaping and she could SEE the arc. I had to stop. I was so pissed off I searched the supply truck, found signs and red tape. Signs said, authorized personnel only. Red tape around access to the tank with signs everywhere.

The very next time she crossed over the red tape to come inside our work area I quickly walked over, told her in firm tones that this was a work area for welders. She was not authorized to cross over unless she clears it with the foreman and he's not going to give clearance until all work is stopped. No entry.

The foreman was super pleased with me as he was sick of her coming over several times a day, nitpicking and shutting down work.

Her safety boss was also an ass. Last day of work we spent 19 hours on the shift finishing up then welded in the door sheet and brought in inspectors to check and x-ray. Believe me, it was a safety bitch keeping those clowns happy. Confined space requirements went into place with check in and check out on a sheet, access monitor person signing us in and out all day, bitch bitch bitch with inflated egos every minute and arguments. Safety supervisor came over while we were installing door sheet and literally walked under the suspended load in total violation of OSHA. Foreman shut it down and had to violently shove him out from under the load and then stood around arguing with him why you never walk near a suspended load, much less walk under it. Duh!.

Next morning was clean up and load out but safety supervisor came and tried to derail us before we even got started. We had been allowed to come in an hour late at 7 am because we had gotten 19 hours in the day before and were obviously tired. That one hour extra of sleep and knowing load out would be a breeze had us pumped. We are going to get a safety bonus with a completion bonus which means a huge paycheck on top of overtime we had been putting in all week. We are jacked up and ready to go. But no, safety ass tries to act all concerned about our safety and we are tired and should just take the day off, blah blah. Foreman told him no. We're loading out and that's that. So he takes a poll. To a man we all said we were fine and eager to get started so he turns around in a huff and walks off. Hey, he called for a vote and got overruled by the grunts. Tough shit.