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And why did this god give me the reason to require evidence and not just have blind faith or he would give me the "choice" the burn for all eternity. Should we throw out our justice system and just use feelings to judge whether someone is guilty or not?

And why did this god give me the reason to require evidence and not just have blind faith or he would give me the "choice" the burn for all eternity. Should we throw out our justice system and just use feelings to judge whether someone is guilty or not?

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Thanks, PS.

They like to pretend that this is just a matter of fools deluding themselves into believing what they wish were true.

Ah yes, the old 'wishful thinking' gambit. Really, it relies on a gross caricature picked out of a basket of false teachings, namely what we associate with prosperity gospel and southern evangelical protestants.

It has always struck me with the most profound irony that anyone would refer to true belief in what the Bible actually says as 'wishful thinking'.

There was a movie from the late 90s called Stigmata with Gabe Byrne and Patricia Arquette (Frankie) that featured a quote which has always stuck with me. At one point after first receiving the stigmata and doing some research into medieval Christianity, Frankie is talking to her friends (a bunch of 20-somethings) and she says,

“You know what's scarier than not believing in God? Believing in him. I mean, really believing in him. It's a fucking terrifying thought.”

This is patently true. Really believing in God does not amount merely to wishful thinking, but a confrontation with something utterly terrifying. It amounts to this: at the moment of death, existence does not stop. It goes on, forever in fact. And the actions/choices/beliefs that one assumes in this life will impact your eternity irrevocably. That death is not an extermination but a door, before and after which you are accountable to your creator who holds any and all potential for the experience of love, beauty, and order. There are a lot of Christians who imply they've confronted this, but it's doubtful if there are many that truly confront it. In one sense, there is a way in which it is beyond understanding, i.e. our thoughts struggle to grip with the idea that there is no extermination. I have always believed (and wrote at length about it once) that the fundamental death fear which the existentialists emphasized does not actually derive from our fear of ending, but of not ending.

Wishful thinking? There was a reason Paul said to the church in Philippi (and which was echoed by Kierkegaard): "work out your own salvation in fear and trembling."

God is the source of all which is Good, and the part which causes us to tremble is the word all. It means all. Therefore, implied by Paul's statement is that failure to work out one's salvation is just to be liberated into the timeless separation from the possibility of Good.

The Christian does wish. We wish for salvation, but beyond what the term 'wish' connotes we encounter the grace of the sacrifice of the Son of God which is salvation, such that wishing is transmuted to faith. But never is there a point at which the seriousness of ultimate reality is not there, where the gravity of man's fallen nature is not lurking. The Christian which sees his situation as one of mere prayer and prosperity, who sees only the loving aspect of the Father, and not His wrath, has missed the significance of Christendom entirely.

As Frankie said: "...really believing in him. It's a fucking terrifying thought."

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who sees only the loving aspect of the Father, and not His wrath, has missed the significance of Christendom entirely.

Bingo. And I will readily admit that the modernist heretics in the Church herself - and the masses of lay people they influence - are guilty of precisely this. Ask your run-of-the-mill Catholic today about God, and they will gush about his mercy, which is good, but they will neglect His wrath, His chastisements, His justice. And this is not good (to neglect).

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I’m not scared of death, the scary part is that it is forever. How tragic it is to be born into the great life i have and to never return to it again and to see loved ones again. I wish i can restart this life over and over again.

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Ah, but this fear can only refer to prior-to-death. Think about it for a moment. If death is actually just extermination, then your regretful feelings about it can only issue during life. At the precise moment of death, there's nothing. Nothing to remember, nothing to regret, nothing to feel. It's absolutely senseless to fear extermination. If it is what you think it is, it represents an end of fear.

The true fear refers to after-death. If death is not what you think it is, then you have absolutely no concept (and without God, no possibility to gain a concept) about what follows. That's something to be afraid of.

This is what I meant by part of my last comment. Our fear of death is incoherent if death is the end. I believe you fear it because there is a part of you which you are unable to reject that is not certain it is the end. You don't fear death as terminal, you're afraid of what it means if it isn't.

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I’m not afraid of an after life unless it is hell. I am afraid of being trapped into nothingness while life goes on.