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So supposedly the (((founder))) of Signal received federal funding to start the service- is this legit? If so, what’s the best messenger app to talk safely on without the chance of being listened in on?

So supposedly the (((founder))) of Signal received federal funding to start the service- is this legit? If so, what’s the best messenger app to talk safely on without the chance of being listened in on?

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In person with your phones locked in a safe near the front door.

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Nope, not even enough. Location tracking and proximity has you in contact at the front door with whoever, as does one of a dozen appliances. Also tracked you on the wY over and corded your call saying you were coming over to “talk”.

Leave phone at home, go to the beach, stand in water with friends all shirts off. This is the only answer per those in the craft.

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What do you do if it is winter and -10 outside?

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pasties, erect nipples are a faux pas.

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Everything else has been ok, tilll it wasn’t, sometimes retroactively years earlier.

The algorithms(like @ palantir) put together every identifying bit of info to a scary degree and know more about you than you. Those in white/black/ gray jobs choose the ocean waves as it guarantees privacy on both sides, no wires can be used. If you’re not worried to that degree, leave all electronics at home with the tv on, go to nature with friends, same rules for them. Your car will be tracked to some degree, but that alone is not enough to trigger anything.

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Looks pretty cool. What apps use tox?

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There's a dedicated tox application by platform (no iOS yet but android, mac, win and linux). You just download the app, create an account and invite friends.

https://tox.chat/download.html

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2 cans and a string

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There's IRL, and there's poal.

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There's IRL.

The internet could only be secure if we wrote in cyphers. But then we'd need a way to distribute the key to trusted parties. The problem is who do we trust?

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You seem trustworthy!

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I am, but you'd have to take my word for it : )

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write a letter to your friends and mail it

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Not safe at all, mail has always been compromized.

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you both need tutanota.com email accounts and then send emails to eachother. there is a Tutanota app. they have secure in-house emailling so yalls coms would be secure unto your email passwords and device, same as signal i assume.

to outside tutanota addresses not sure if it is pgp because it has you give a password to the receiver and that person would enter that in a tutanota webpage, i belive. i dont think i ever used this style of mail.

they do good at data respecting and deletion and logs. it's german. my only complaint so far is there is no multi delete for the inbox and after a few years you need to pay or delete old inbox messages. the search tool works good. you just gotta cache your inbox to your computer.

another idea is VPN and message boards. you should have some alternate vocabulary though.

if you want to be very secure you can both have the same book and use the page number to reference the com incidence number(message from 3feb13:00,3feb15:00,5feb03:00) and for each character(in the com) it can be incremented up or down based on a value of a letter beginning at the bottom of the page and skipping every other(or every two) letter(you do this so people cant guess the key). So if the letter is a c in the coded message and y is the coresponding letter [in the book] then 25(y) needs to be wound backward on the c(3),, so E would be the decoded letter. for every letter sent there will be a different key. you can even cite reference material external to the message to get more info in less words. like i could have this post referenced in a message and the listener will know the new protocol.