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How far are you willing to go to not take it? Will you be willing to never travel by air? Will you give up some jobs? Most jobs? Any job? Give up restaurants? Give up retail shopping, including for food?

Will you go to jail?

Will you pretend to have taken it, not actually fighting the program? What will you do if they find out?

What about when they demand you give it to your children?

How vigorously will you protest? Will you actually, truly be out there on the street holding a sign? How many letters will you send to your mayor, your representative, your senator?

At what point will you push back and how hard? How firm is your commitment, given your history with commitments of this type?

The time to decide is now.

How far are you willing to go to not take it? Will you be willing to never travel by air? Will you give up some jobs? Most jobs? Any job? Give up restaurants? Give up retail shopping, including for food? Will you go to jail? Will you pretend to have taken it, not actually fighting the program? What will you do if they find out? What about when they demand you give it to your children? How vigorously will you protest? Will you actually, truly be out there on the street holding a sign? How many letters will you send to your mayor, your representative, your senator? At what point will you push back and how hard? How firm is your commitment, given your history with commitments of this type? The time to decide is now.

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[–] [deleted] 4 pts

This is a great idea. You could also do a job recruting company for refuses.

Please comment on my video if you do. Would be awesome.

But let's see what happens first

[–] [deleted] 8 pts

Yes, I've been talking about how we need to build out parallel and independent systems as an "overlay" state for a while. Even tried to get it going with some local ag folks but they are too bought into the welfare state/subsidies. So I guess instead of building out a parallel supply chain we'll just find ways to sidestep the nonsense in the normal supply chain for now and revisit alternative supply chain idea in the future.

[–] 5 pts

The Amish and many rural Country peeps have been trying this for decades.

In Ohio we use to goto the farm to pickup wheat to grind into flour, they had a milk tanker for fresh unpasteurized milk that got them done in. Government can't have a health crisis due to unpasteurized milk now can we.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

That's exactly where I got the idea. The Amish (and other groups like them) have an advantage in that they have a cohesion that comes from their common religion. The fact that the common man DOES NOT have this as an advantage is no accident. Still, this is the path forward.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

Related...in Utah they used to have canning stores where you could bring goods to be canned and you just donated to the store for the canning supplies and use of the equipment. FDA regs put a stop to that out of a "fear of botulism" even though I've not heard of that ever being a problem. The Feds (and FDA in particular) have a history of doing things to prevent people from practicing food storage etc that aligns with being prepared. I suppose in this administration they will crack down on self-sufficient behaviors even more but now instead of making complaints about food safety they can just claim that the self-sufficiency is thinly-veiled "toxic whiteness". Such is the slippery slope toward democide/genocide.

Raw milk is really great for pigs. Everyone round here is feeding their pigs and maybe dogs raw milk.

[–] 4 pts

What did the ag people say? If they can't turn a profit without subsidies that's another problem.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts (edited )

It was more like I could not find any in my area who were willing to put any effort in either for fear of upsetting the apple cart of subsidies or because they had generational wealth and didn't care to come out of their canyon to engage with wider society. I talked to mostly ranchers, FWIW.

Of course, without saying too much, its also sort of the nature of folks in this area that they want to see some results before they will entertain. So we'll get the deliveries going and then re-approach.