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Pretty obvious. The internet service providers will eventually block traffic to IP’s that host stuff that doesn’t fit the narrative.

Tor network is still using ISP’s

We all jumping to some potato MESH network?

What do we do when the ((media)) owned ISP block sites at the IP level? How do we make our own network?

Pretty obvious. The internet service providers will eventually block traffic to IP’s that host stuff that doesn’t fit the narrative. Tor network is still using ISP’s We all jumping to some potato MESH network? What do we do when the ((media)) owned ISP block sites at the IP level? How do we make our own network?

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[–] • 15 pts

Whatever the solution, it must either

1) Run on decentralized infrastructure (e.g. HAM radio)

OR

2) Run on current infrastructure (owned by a couple ISP's) in a manner which makes it difficult/intractable to determine what an IP is actually receiving/transmitting (e.g. Freenet, Tor, i2p, etc.)

[–] • 2 pts

Did MeshNet ever get anywhere?

[–] • 0 pt

It will probably run on current ifrastructure, like how the interent is run on the electrical grid.

[–] • 1 pt

while there are household ethernet over powerline adapters, the internet doesn't run on powerlines or the electrical grid. It is run through cable and fiber.

[–] • 0 pt (edited )

True I was too basic in my comment. To clarify, our current power grid is managed by the state in conjunction with corporations. The internet is a series of systems within the electrical grid via cables as well as antenas and satellites managed by both the state and corporations. Much like the telephone system, the internet has its own vast infrastucture allowing us to communicate worldwide but without electricity, it disappears. The same electricity managed by the state and corporations which have yet to block electricity from the homes / bussinesses of people with wrong opinions. This is why I can see a situation where a new communication method is birthed from the infrastrucre already in place.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt (edited )

It's a series of tubes.

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VPNs will probably do it.

[–] • 6 pts

hell no they will not. VPN's are licensed businesses which are often either required to keep track of VPN logs, or can be legally compelled to turn over identifiable information about a VPN users traffic.

VPN's are one of the least secure ways of concealing your internet history, because you are trusting that the VPN provider is an angel who would rather go to jail than give up traffic logs for some randos they've never met.

[–] [deleted] • 4 pts

You do know you can setup your own VPN right? It's not that hard. Purchase VPS in some foreign country, setup VPN, connect to VPN, done.

Helps if you use Linux too.

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

Dont use a vpn based in the usa.

[–] • 1 pt

That's because you're a noob. Professionnals use VPN based in country that don't require them to track logs and turn over their shit. I think Avast's VPN does.

[–] • 0 pt

Then some sort of other encryption. The fundamental of not letting the ISP see what you are transacting works. ISPs route VPN traffic for businesses all day long without any idea of the contents.

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China blocks all VPN traffic

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts (edited )

Openconnect doesnt get caught by deep packet inspection. Tested with ndpi and confirmed it can get around isp vpn throttling.

Get a vps and setup openconnect. As long as they dont ban vps ips you should be ok.