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I've never met right-wingers who were as openly racist as the ones I found on Voat and now Poal.

And I grew up in a very conservative household, went to a conservative church believed the Bible was inerrant and all that. I grew up in a conservative Christian community, and know many many people who are conservative Christians who are against racism. They are against racism because they believe it is against the Bible's teachings.

Then I go exploring online after seeing censorship on Reddit, and find outright racists who believe that black people are inferior and that the Jews are the reason for all the problems in the world.

I am trying to understand this group of people. Many of them seem non-Christian or atheist, but some self-identify as Christian.

I have a few questions:

  • Do you call yourself a Christian?
  • How many of you go to churches that believe/are fine with outright racism?
  • Do you simply hide your beliefs really well, mostly live in the South/areas where it is accepted, etc.?
  • Did you grow up with these beliefs, or did your ideas change later in life?

Thanks.

I've never met right-wingers who were as openly racist as the ones I found on Voat and now Poal. And I grew up in a very conservative household, went to a conservative church believed the Bible was inerrant and all that. I grew up in a conservative Christian community, and know many many people who are conservative Christians who are against racism. They are against racism because they believe it is against the Bible's teachings. Then I go exploring online after seeing censorship on Reddit, and find outright racists who believe that black people are inferior and that the Jews are the reason for all the problems in the world. I am trying to understand this group of people. Many of them seem non-Christian or atheist, but some self-identify as Christian. I have a few questions: * Do you call yourself a Christian? * How many of you go to churches that believe/are fine with outright racism? * Do you simply hide your beliefs really well, mostly live in the South/areas where it is accepted, etc.? * Did you grow up with these beliefs, or did your ideas change later in life? Thanks.

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OP, why are you using an alt () you've just created to comment in your own thread?

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because I was trying to get the shortest username possible. I've settled on "NO", but yes que is my alt I just created.

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For what purpose?

Also "Racist" is a word invented by a Jew (Leon Trotsky) to silence criticism of destructive Jewish behavior against the goyim.

Coming and calling people racists isn't an argument.

Are you a Jew?

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No, I'm just evangelical Christian. I just like having short usernames. What most people here would say boomers believe.

I'm not trying to use "racism" as an argument, but what term would you like me to use? Just "people who use the n-word all the time"?

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It's pretty obvious why someone would want a short username. Over time they all get used up, and having a short username means you've been on the site a long time. A sort of cred, which is impressive on social medias. Not sure why you need to ask.

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I've never met right-wingers who were as openly racist as the ones I found on Voat and now Poal.

Probably because we're not going around calling everyone 'niggerfaggot' in real life. We're over the top here because it's fun, and because the truth about race is as unutterable in most of public life as saying "biden didn't win 80 million votes." Race is just one narrative upon which everyone has been fed a load of bologna.

Then I go exploring online after seeing censorship on Reddit, and find outright racists who believe that black people are inferior and that the Jews are the reason for all the problems in the world.

Most are aware that ghettoized whites exist and are intolerable, and that the jews (who are overwhelmingly overrepresented in every consequential institution) are invariably aided and abetted by whites. Nobody's going to say that whites are perfect, but at the end of the day you have to take your own side whether we're "superior" or not— we have a right to exist that is being denied to us. Blacks are pro-black, jews are pro-jew, despite the worst behavior of their racial groups. If nobody is pro-white, we're finished.

Do you call yourself a Christian?

I used to be an outright atheist, thanks mostly to the same social engineering programs that teach everyone "we're all equal." But I've come to see the need both in public life and my own life for a connection with the numinous. Otherwise one is left to modern decadence, and various sorts of enslavement. There exists a manichean dimension to life. Christianity is one manifestation of these aspects of life that transcend the temporal. It's one of the things that makes civilization and life beyond mere "consumer existence" possible, so I'm for it as a public institution, but I tend to agree less with its claims as they become more specific to particular branches of Christianity, or more rooted in historical narratives.

How many of you go to churches that believe/are fine with outright racism?

I was interested in attending a church, for a time if only for the cultural value of, say, a Latin Mass. I found that nearly all local churches boast of nonwhite pastors. Most have female administration. Some have pro-gay sentiments on their branding and several donate to "pay africans to breed"-style causes. I imagine most church-goers as being sheltered to the point of being totally divorced from the realities of what they are promoting, and the type of future they're creating for their descendents.

I have to wonder if being singled out by shutdown policies has helped any of them understand that these issues don't exist in isolation. It's not like I'd even want them to be the sorts of fulminating racists you see here; I want them to acknowledge that "the system" despises them, and has largely succeeded in uprooting them from public life.

Do you simply hide your beliefs really well, mostly live in the South/areas where it is accepted, etc.?

One must learn to tell the truth without being a retard about it. Obviously, people are deeply conditioned to think "well, we're all apparently equal and my family has never been dispensed with by a gang of South African farm-raiders, so I'll just go along with the narrative." People are also conditioned to think less about rational arguments, and more about emotional ones— if you want someone to plug his ears and ignore the facts of the situation, just remind him that he'll be ostracized for holding the wrong opinions, or even just acklowledging that "13 do 50."

Did you grow up with these beliefs, or did your ideas change later in life?

I was a smug internet atheist for most of my life. I joined voat because it became clear that reddit, twitter, et al were no longer consonant with my basically libertarian view that legal speech should be allowed on such platforms, regardless of who it offends. Instead, we started getting privileged classes. When corruption is exposed among the pseudo-elites, it's squelched. Race turned out to just be another topic about which we aren't allowed to tell the truth without some sort of consequence.

Have a nice day.

PS. Epstein didn't kill himself.

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"Racist" = "White guy that can read statistics".

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Zionist conservatives love helping niggers and jews. Niggers are beasts of the field with wool on their heads and jews are the synagogues of Satan and any preacher who tells you otherwise is a retarded zionist or a mossad asset.

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>love helping niggers and jews>>

They are the only conservatives I've ever known. The vast majority of conservatives are this way. Can you show me differently?

at least over half of conservatives I've ever known have no use for niggers or kike trash. You're probably thinking of the brain dead boomers.

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So most conservative boomers are not racist, but young people are? This is the opposite from what I've heard, that old people tend to be racist but young people are not.

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I'm a Christian. I don't attend any church since I cannot find one that has not abandoned the Scriptures. I believe millenia of depravity in what was rightly termed Darkest Africa has left its mark in the genome of the Children of Ham. I'm willing to give individuals a chance but I'm not blind to statistical trends in factors such as IQ and predilection towards violence.

As for the JQ, just stick around and read a while and you'll see enough to make an informed decision for yourself.

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"that has not abandoned the Scriptures." I get mail from a fundamentalist church that believes in homeschooling because public school is indoctrination, and they believe only in the KJV. This is close to my beliefs, but I'm surprised you're not able to find a church you like (I'm not in the South btw).

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I know of some that I am in agreement with, but they all require the signing of Church covenants and by-laws in order to be a full member and I don't believe anything other than letting our yes be a yes and testing each other in the Scriptures is acceptable.

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Racism is earned, not taught.

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What does this mean? And do you consider yourself a Christian?

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different person but I'll take a whack at it.

first off I don't see racism as being a bad thing. Humans are natural pattern finders. One of the things that honestly distinguishes us from other animals. Finding your "people" or "tribe" is natural and needed for survival. Defending your tribe against outside forces that cause it harm is also natural.

I do not hate the nigger for being a nigger. I hate him for his actions. The statistical data speaks for itself.

Maybe it should be - Racism is learned, not taught. You learn it through life experience, I honestly believe it is the natural result of forced association between incompatible peoples.

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Racism is a spectrum ranging from whom you decide to have a family with, all the way to genocide and a million things in-between.

So, in order to have an honest conversation about racism you need to be specific about which types of racism you're talking about.

I don't understand how anyone could get upset at racism based in Liberty.

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The current brand of Christianity is nothing like that of our ancestors. We focus too much on turning the other cheek and not on picking up a sword. Caring about our community first has been beaten out of us by the Jews, it's been happening since the first world War. That's why you didn't see it growing up.

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I've been on Voat a very long time and I can tell you the "Christians" who are like this are typically comparable to the Black Hebrew Israelites. They basically gut the Bible and place some weird interpretation where God hates black people in the same way that Black Hebrew Israelites say all huwhites will go to hell. They even parrot the same "we wuz the real Jews" line. You can read pretty much whatever interpretation you want into the Bible if you try hard enough.

I never really understood it because the Bible is pretty clear that virtue is the delineating factor (which makes perfect sense).

That said, most of them despise Christianity. There's just a handful of outliers but the overwhelming majority hate Christians.

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I've definitely seen many on Voat calling Christianity a "Jewish religion" believing in a Jewish God and all that, and that's why they hate it. If that's the majority of people here, that is understandable.

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It's incredibly carnal minded and it's no surprise that the same "Christians" who believe this revolve around carnal minded themes. Imagine being so absorbed in yourself that you unironically believe there's nothing bigger to life than race. Like what's the heaven they imagine? "Ah no niggers or Jews. How wonderful. Let's spend the rest of eternity just...idk. being white. Ah yes. Wonderful". This post-enlightenment thinking is so myopic, cancerous and limiting. It's demolished thousands of years of philosophical deliberation and scrupulous study in place of cave men walking around with clubs conquering enemy tribes.

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I can understand you here. I get the "being critical because of race statistics" and all, but some people seem to have their entire life revolve around hating black people and jews (at least online), and I can't imagine how those people call themselves Christian (if they are something else then fine). Thanks for the response.

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Tell me youre a conservative correct? But what have you conserved? Youve let blacks and jews destroy your culture, rape your women, brainwash your children. Your history is being erased, your peoples genetic lines are ending, more and more sickness is being created. The fake jews that call themselves jews are really satans children. They arent semetic, they are Satans children

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