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Posts critical of Trump are downvoted on , an hour old post with (+3 | -6) is already on the third page: https://poal.co/s/Politics/242360, for reference there are 3-4 hour old posts with a score below 5 on the first page.

There is an element of truth to it and is worth discussing beyond the lazy "this news org is kiked" arguments, it's definitely not spam.

If the algorithm doesn't attempt to guess if downvotes are legitimate before mods take action then most posts will get the voat treatment.

Posts critical of Trump are downvoted on /s/Politics, an hour old post with (+3 | -6) is already on the third page: https://poal.co/s/Politics/242360, for reference there are 3-4 hour old posts with a score below 5 on the first page. There is an element of truth to it and is worth discussing beyond the lazy "this news org is kiked" arguments, it's definitely not spam. If the algorithm doesn't attempt to guess if downvotes are legitimate before mods take action then most posts will get the voat treatment.

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[–] • 4 pts

Lol the rules are made up here buddy. You're thinking too hard.

[–] • 2 pts

Why are (((you))) here if the place is so garbage?

That is the most kikey thing to do.

(((I))) hate this place but must subvert it!

[–] • 2 pts

why are (((you))) here if all you do is accuse people questioning authority of wrongthink?

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

He is afraid of anyone who thinks slightly different as evidenced by him panic banning people form his subs. He’s a pussy who (((projects))).

[–] • 1 pt

Why does u/Anticlutch self-fellate when there is so much dick in the world?

[–] • 2 pts

If the algorithm doesn't attempt to guess if downvotes are legitimate before mods take action then most posts will get the voat treatment.

I'm somewhat on the slow side so bear with me here. Your concern is that the algorithm isn't active enough?

[–] • 2 pts (edited )

I don't think it's smart enough to ignore illegitimate downvotes and we're stuck with the voat culture that downvotes everything they don't like.

Downvotes shouldn't affect ranking if the post also has a significant amount of upvotes/activity because in 99% of cases it means the post isn't spam.

edit: Counter Strike: GO's player report function is handled by AI, users have a score based on their history of reports that either ended in a game ban or were false positives, if someone is report-happy their reports basically don't matter. The number of reports and their score determine whether the reported player's behavior are reviewed by the community, there is more AI going on with the conviction process but in the case of Poal it can just go to the mods for a final decision.

[–] • 2 pts

I don't think it's smart enough to ignore illegitimate downvotes

Now I understand, hon. It likely isn't smart enough though which is a pity, but also probably a large challenge.

and we're stuck with the voat culture that downvotes everything they don't like.

I think most people on free speech sites don't actually value the principle. If I had to guess why, it's likely thoughtless hypocrisy. There are a few old Poalrs and probably some fresh ex-goats that consciously object to free speech on principle, and that's more of a philosophical difference. The Voat tradition of downvote what you don't like will probably have to be nagged (and in some cases algorithmed) away. At least there they can't bully young accounts for being young. Though the temptation is always there for me.

[+] [deleted] • 1 pt
[–] • 1 pt

Same thing on voat, any criticism of Trump = You must be a kike

[+] [deleted] • 2 pts
[–] • 1 pt

That’s how retards think. You’re not with me you must be against me.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

The only logic thing is to switch off downvote button completely.

Downvoting is the only way shills can annoy genuine posters.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

I think the "no downvotes" policy is idiotic, but yeah it would be better to remove downvotes entirely than to have them but impose weird arbitrary rules to make them meaningless.

If it's only for spam then have a "flag as spam" button instead.

[–] • 1 pt

It would be cool if we had an additional "I disagree." button that only showed the number of people clicked it and had no other affect. It would give users who feel slighted by opinions a less disruptive option.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

What do you think of the response button in the Unz Review comment section? It has various options for leaving a one-word response to another user as an alternative to a full comment reply: "agree", "disagree", "troll", "LOL", "thanks".

[–] • 0 pt

That is interesting, I imagine it cuts down on one word responses quite a bit.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

If you are unable to explain why you disagree, the button alone is meaningless.

[–] • 1 pt

That's the point. The button effectively would do nothing. Just direct clicks away from the down-vote button that actually causes harm to the discussion.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

At what frequency (per second) can one downvote another poaler (Bear)? What is the maximum number of downvotes per min/hour/day a poaler can use? Serial downvoters (assholes) are a PROBLEM. Bears are BEARS. More respect is DEMANDED.

[–] • 1 pt

I don't think per-user limits work, you only need 10 downvotes from people who ignore the rules to disappear a post, and the set of users could change for each post.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

It was posted by the notorious, despised troll , so I'm not surprised it was downvoted. Fuck him.

[–] • 1 pt

I don't see him spazzing out like this other retard in this thread, nothing against you but if he can be singled as that poster while these mental cases are free to do whatever this place is gonna turn to shit like voat.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

  1. Voat was always great.

  2. The "no downvotes" policy here is just as bad as the "downvote == disagree" attitude.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

The last years were garbage, someone else here pointed out that due to the "downvote == disagree" attitude most people were just hypocrites, opposing viewpoints were silenced while people who belong in an asylum were allowed to keep posting in the name of "free speech". They were obvious trolls, instead of using kike tactics they would spergpost and include 1-2 facts to make their annoying posts look legitimate in a twisted way, they basically created their own cult where people would actually read through the low-information posts and preach about the retard's accomplishments like Q followers.

[–] • 1 pt

It was shit, downvote meant you lost posting ability. So you downvoting legitimate news from people kept it an echo chamber. Made it impossible for anyone other than people with your views to use the site. Poal has a much better freedom of speech ethos

[–] • 1 pt

Apparently disliking trump means I'm a troll/kike/shill. I'm none. Just trying to restore some balance to the site.

[–] • 0 pt

The thing is voat didn't go to shit, you just had a bad reputation and people don't like you. You constantly accuse everyone else of being shills and alts and were rightfully downvoated for being a d-bag. was a semi-illiterate faggot and people liked him more then you.

[–] • 1 pt

I’m not a faggot I just wanna see a dick sometimes

[–] • 0 pt

I only accuse the most annoying faggots, the ones that should truly just blow their brains out. I personally didn't give a shit about downvotes, it isn't a popularity contest and was never enough to silence me. Not sure why you're confusing voat's issues with me.