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Is suicide permissible if only certain types of people do it? Does it not matter who does it, it's always fine morally? Is it always immoral no matter the situation?

Edit: I'm not suicidal at all, just wondering how you all view the subject from a moral standpoint.

Not much else to add here. Is suicide permissible if only certain types of people do it? Does it not matter who does it, it's always fine morally? Is it always immoral no matter the situation? Edit: I'm not suicidal at all, just wondering how you all view the subject from a moral standpoint.

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[–] 10 pts

If you're going to kill yourself, at least do it with explosives in a synagogue.

[–] [deleted] 6 pts

You should add giving great suicide advice to your resume. That's epic.

[–] 2 pts

I'm not going to kill myself, I'm more wondering in terms of bullying faggots and degenerates.

[–] 4 pts

There will always be dregs of society. My take on this – rope those who try to get near children.

[–] 1 pt

Seems fair. And traditional.

[–] 0 pt

They do nothing to better our counties or lives, kill them all... in minecraft.

[–] 0 pt

I hate niggers in minecraft in real life.

[–] 5 pts

It's always immoral. Our life is not ours to end; it belongs to God.

[–] 3 pts

This makes me angry. Is there anything that I own in this life? I'm just supposed to sit here and suffer after being forced to come here against my will?

[–] 3 pts

No, there's nothing you own; you are blessed to be given life: God giveth, God taketh away. He gave us the freewill to disobey him - to choose our own Right and wrong - to go against nature; and that means to accept the consequences of going against how God has laid out this World. If you're sad, it's because you've listened to Satan [the prince of this world] and his lies; if you're angry, you're listening to your thoughts that Satan has whispered to you. Have Faith in God, repent, and pray to our Father in Heaven: question EVERY thought, for all thoughts are lies. You suffer, because you reject God.

I once said the same things as you- word for word. It's a lie. It's not you. It's Satan. Don't believe his lies.

[–] 0 pt

Agreed. My only child committed suicide. Depressed, multiple medical issues. Mensa member since age 10, computer geek on many boards helping many people, and working with like minded people from many countries on projects. If I told you what projects, I'd dox myself. When his friends disclosed some of the projects, his (not very close) family was shocked. Based on recent research, I suspect he had brain inflamation, which no doctor checked for. Brought lifelong grief to his many friends, associates, and particularly me. Their souls don't go to heaven right away, they go to a place the Catholics call "purgatory". It has negative connotations, but appears to be like a doctor's waiting room. But the doctor "isn't ready for you yet". A place where they get to figure out what they missed in this life. Observe others. See the struggles others are having because they aren't there to do the job God gave them for their time on earth. Punishment? Not like hitting or screaming at someone. But seeing what you were destined to do, and the hard time others are having because your particular skills are no long there must be heartbreaking to them. I'm pretty sure he was supposed to play a big part in the anon world of the Great Awakening. So I go from grieving to being really pissed off. I can't even look at his picture, because I still cry. I love him and miss him so much.

[–] 0 pt

Good point about the brain inflammation - doctors really dont know what they're doing -- I think I went through something similar, but I think God gave me a hand out of...I sorry to hear the pain you've been through; honestly I have faith in God that he is all loving and forgiving - Gods ways are a mystery. God bless you,

Sorry for your loss. That really, really sucks. I know my words don't mean shit, but I truly am sorry this happened. A good friend of mines son killed himself after he got out of the military and it crushed him. Now my buddy can't even hold down a job because he sought drug use to ease the pain and now he is lost and just waiting to die. It's just all around shitty what suicide does to the people that are left behind.

[–] 0 pt

Thanks. If I had thought to school him on how it would affect all of us, he might have had second thoughts. But maybe not, I suspect that even if he delayed his decision, it would have happened later if a solution wasn't found. He was in such emotional pain, and it was obvious to everyone.

[–] 0 pt

God doesn't exist. You may as well say your life belongs to Harry Potter, because it's the same thing.

[–] 0 pt

HarryPotter, so you believe in magic?

How did you we get here? Are you one of them evolutionists?

[–] 3 pts

Not always immoral. But you better be debilitated beyond function to justify it. Fucking fat pigs can work on a keyboard then you can too.

[–] 3 pts

Only if you leave no one behind. But everybody has got somebody that cares about them. I care about you and would be sad if you took your life.

[–] 3 pts

It can't be 100% immoral in every instance as I will demonstrate.

I believe it would be difficult to shake the morality-stick at terminal patients, basically tortured inside their dying bodies, who want to yank out their own plug.

Also, anyone who's stomach has been implanted by a xenomorph or been bitten by a zombie or fooled into a bj from a tranny etc is allowable. I'm firm on this.

I think bruce willis tossing that faggot into the space elevator so he could push the button saving earth, completely moral. Turner flying that nuke to the pentagon to save the future, also moral.

Oh, one more. Any and all jewish or brown or jewish and brown people can morally commit suicide right now.

[–] 0 pt

Suicide being immoral is a complete judeo-christian thing. It was considered your duty to kill yourself if you fucked up badly in some ancient white cultures and still kind of is today in East Asian ones.

[–] 0 pt

You're right, and it's been the norm for a couple millennia. Morality and religion aside, it's still a shitty thing to do in many cases.

[–] 0 pt

"Fooled into a BJ from a tranny" hahahahahah. Ok I agree with this.

[–] 2 pts

John 15:13 “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends

[–] 0 pt

I'd say there is a difference between altruistic self-sacrifice and suicide.

[–] 0 pt

my point was that a "suicide" can be for noble reasons. .. hard to know a person thoughts...jumping on a grenade to save your platoon is heroic yet still suicide...and human judgment of "why" people do as they do is often flawed... What brings a person to give their life up is ultimately the person they have been created to be at that moment...AS GOD has created them. All things are out, through and for God..He kills and He makes alive... God "judgments" are just..not man's. God brings about all live and all death...ALL give an account for what they do to GOD...not to be eternally punished by HIM BUT to be made a new creation in HIM... we experience evil to know good ..we know good to know the Creator

[–] 0 pt

My point is that it would not be suicide then... And that the two, giving your life for someone else vs taking your life for yourself, are not the same thing. I'm not even commenting on the morality of it. Simply saying they are not the same. That verse refers to only one of those acts.

[–] 2 pts

if you can kill yourself using instruments that are longer than you are tall, there is no karmic consequence.

so you shouldn't kill yourself with a knife, but if you can jab yourself good with a spear that's taller than you it's ok.

buildings are taller than you so jumping off of them is ok.

poison is bad.

guns are bad.

hanging is ok as long as the rope is longer than you are tall from the holdfast to the bottom of the loop. don't measure before the knot is tied. only after.

[–] 2 pts

Strangest reply I've seen so far, I like it.

[–] 3 pts

He’s based ducktales from voat. He’s smart in an absolutely crazy kind of way.

[–] 0 pt

you shut your dirty face

i don't know any ducka duck who nonsense

[–] 0 pt

Its sounds so autistic that there may be something to it.

[–] 2 pts

It depends on the reason for doing it. Suicide to avoid dishonor is morally acceptable (you can see examples of this with people like Socrates, various ancient Romans and nips who followed the Bushido code).

If you suicide out of simple embarrassment or weakness, then it is wrong morally, but society is probably better for it anyway.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

When someone is dying a painful death, from natural causes, and "the hospice system" only provides painkillers upon screaming from excruciating pain, taking a bottle of pills to quickly end it all seems reasonable.

[–] 1 pt

No thats immoral because treating a thing is more profitable than cureing it, by offing yoursefel you denie your local jew shekels you anti semite.

[–] 1 pt

It's your own life, if you want to end it, and you have genuinely come to that decision on your own, then who am I to say you cannot.

When you think about it, suicide is the supremely selfish act. You do it for yourself, with little or no thought to the pain and damage you leave behind, should you succeed.

If you truly believe death is better than living your life another day, well, I am not in your shoes, so who am I to judge if you are right or wrong.

[–] 1 pt

I believe it is wrong, but on principle, I wouldn't wish for any institution to deny a person the choice. In cases of depression or strokes of very poor luck, I think it is easier for people to make the moral case against suicide. The cases where a person suffers from advanced ALS, for example, for whom each day is nothing but pain and the experience of being trapped in one's own body, it is a lot harder to admonish that person for wanting life to end. I simply cannot say to that person: "You must live."

As far as how I construe suicide in terms of its moral consequence (say, from a religious perspective), I have to say I simply don't know. I recognize that there are those who would call it a mortal sin, but I'm just not satisfied I know what that even means.

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