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Section 230 protects a service provider from liabilities that arise from what people say and post on said service. Section 230 basically says "you are not the free speech police and as such are not responsible for what people say."

Now what happens when you remove this protection? You are saying to tech firms "You ARE the free speech police and if you fail to police the speech of your users you can be sued for what people are saying on your platform."

People seem to think that "removing Section 230" will end big tech censorship but it will be the exact opposite. Removing Section 230 will in fact REQUIRE tech firms to censor. If a user drops an f-bomb the platform can be sued for distributing adult content without the proper age rating being displayed. If a user uses the N-word the platform can be prosecuted fro hate speech. The platform will have to censor out of self protection. Worse still however, when the tech firm assumes the role of editor, they can now change, modify or delete any content they want... it is no longer your voice; it is now their voice and they can make it say what ever they want.

But wait! There's more! Now anyone who hosts a forum or any form of social media will be obligated to implement moderators, fact checkers and editors to review, edit and approve all user content. Why? Because if they don't some shill will post some bad words and the FCC will issue a huge fine. Only giant tech monopolies will have the resources to moderate content and hence they will be the only ones that are allowed to host user generated content. Goodby Poal.co. Good by to all of the chans... Facebook and twitter will be the only options.

It still gets worse though... mark my words. Big tech will paint themselves the savior of free speech rather than it's executioner. Big tech will rise to the challenge of saving on line public discussion and will roll out AI driven content moderation tools that all of the 'little guys' can use to avoid being sued and fined out of business. And just like that we will have one centralized algorithm that will moderate all speech on the internet.

Trump has been promising to drain the swamp for 4 years but he has only been controlled opposition all along. It did not happen for Easter, it did not happen in the summer. There was no 10 days of darkness and it is not going to happen on Jan 6.

Go look up the Color Revolution Playbook and realize that a stolen election is part of the plan. 4-D chess is being played but trump is only a pawn.

Section 230 protects a service provider from liabilities that arise from what people say and post on said service. Section 230 basically says "you are not the free speech police and as such are not responsible for what people say." Now what happens when you remove this protection? You are saying to tech firms "You **ARE** the free speech police and if you fail to police the speech of your users you can be sued for what people are saying on your platform." People seem to think that "removing Section 230" will end big tech censorship but it will be the exact opposite. Removing Section 230 will in fact **REQUIRE** tech firms to censor. If a user drops an f-bomb the platform can be sued for distributing adult content without the proper age rating being displayed. If a user uses the N-word the platform can be prosecuted fro hate speech. The platform will have to censor out of self protection. Worse still however, when the tech firm assumes the role of editor, they can now change, modify or delete any content they want... it is no longer your voice; it is now **their** voice and they can make it say what ever they want. But wait! There's more! Now anyone who hosts a forum or any form of social media will be obligated to implement moderators, fact checkers and editors to review, edit and approve all user content. Why? Because if they don't some shill will post some bad words and the FCC will issue a huge fine. Only giant tech monopolies will have the resources to moderate content and hence they will be the only ones that are allowed to host user generated content. Goodby Poal.co. Good by to all of the chans... Facebook and twitter will be the only options. It still gets worse though... mark my words. Big tech will paint themselves the savior of free speech rather than it's executioner. Big tech will rise to the challenge of saving on line public discussion and will roll out AI driven content moderation tools that all of the 'little guys' can use to avoid being sued and fined out of business. And just like that we will have one centralized algorithm that will moderate all speech on the internet. Trump has been promising to drain the swamp for 4 years but he has only been controlled opposition all along. It did not happen for Easter, it did not happen in the summer. There was no 10 days of darkness and it is not going to happen on Jan 6. Go look up the Color Revolution Playbook and realize that a stolen election is part of the plan. 4-D chess is being played but trump is only a pawn.

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Because, there is no such thing as hate speech, only free speech. Because as an American, I have rights. I have the right to not be censored by the American based platform I use. If I was on a Mongolian basket weaving forum, and I said something to hurt the Mongolians fefees, I'd expect to be censored. The 'fact checkers' are part of the psy op- the brainwashing and manipulation part. 'Fact checkers' exist to push a narrative. I don't read what they say because I don't want to be part of their programming push.

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I think that the entirety of my post was lost on you.

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I had to edit pay op (fucking autocorrect) to pay op. You covered a lot of ground and I only addressed one angle. Voat is gone, the threat is real.

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Pay op. Fuuucckkk autocorrect!!! Psychological operation. So I just found out that autocorrect is happening when I post a comment. Interesting.

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There is no such thing as a human right. Just power and what power allows you to do. Removing section 230 would do absolutely nothing to megacorps like facebook and twitter who literally are so powerful they leverage the state. It will effect places like THIS and is probably one of the reasons voat shut down.

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I was referring to the Constitution of the United States in the Bill of Rights that accompanies it. I have seen this thing you speak of, human rights, being touted around by leftists. It's struck a chord with me when they said humans have a right to water. 3 days without water in your as good as dead. But labeling it a human right? Power uses things like this and it's psychological operations against the public. Brainwashing, manipulation, control, I don't have to tell you. You realize that when you see it. We can only speculate why it was closed. Personally I think the freedom of speech there was a threat to those in power. You also recognize that money is no object to those in power. Again, speculation.

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No, there is no such thing as a natural human right at all. That’s what I’m saying. There is nothing protecting you to a right to life if you are inside the jungle, the tiger doesn’t care that somewhere 2000 miles away there’s a piece of paper that says you have a right to life on it. That’s what I was getting at, scribbles on paper are nothing, they are not magical. The constitution is not magical. If the state decided to take your guns away a magical power does not stop them from doing so. That’s what I meant about there being no such things as human rights because there isn’t. A human right is a state given right that is agreed upon by a collective of people with the same mindset and they agree to enforce and defend those rights. If the state does not enforce the right to free speech on megacorps then it doesn’t matter what the piece of paper says does it? This is how the real world works, might is right and the megacorps are mighty and are in bed with the mighty (the US government). They sell data and push propaganda to the state. They are invaluable to the state so the state will not enforce the law on them no matter what a scribble on a piece of paper says. The megacorps won’t even have to abide by the rules of a section 230 repeal, they have all of the power, all of the capital and all of the lawyers. This site would be shut down. Facebook, google and twitter are above the law, they can do whatever they want.

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Exactly. It’s fucking hilarious that with the track record of the US government fighting these megacorps that people are believing that it would effect them in any way, shape or form. Facebook, google and twitter are more powerful than any state in the world because of their influence and ability to collect data. There is no possible way they will be struck down by the people they are in bed with (US government). It’s just people blindly following trump as usual and being fucking morons.

This is just as confusing to people as Net Neutrality was/is.

People do realize. It's a conspiracy, that 's why they want to kill it.

This way they will be able to shut down independent sites.

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People do realize. It's a conspiracy, that 's why they want to kill it.

...And this is the Color Revolution Playbook. Making people so sick of the corrupt system that they are willing to burn it all to the ground is the third to the last step in the playbook.

  • Make people willing to burn it all to the ground with obvious corruption and a stolen election

  • Get useful idiots to burn it all down

  • Put in place a new puppet government, usually a dictatorship and sometimes communism.

Ah, yes. The classic "this is shit" but if you upgrade it'll get better deal. Usually when you upgrade you realize you've been conned and fell for a big scam.

You're forgetting that this would nuke Facebook and YouTube and Reddit too.

The internet will become a place where only the tech-savvy who can start their own IRC servers and etc. can only survive again? Sign me up.