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Is the onus not on the woman in that scenario?

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Why would it be? Women need men to protect them an initiate, lest they be labeled a whore.

Men must learn to abstain so as to not be distracted, to empower themselves in other areas and to reroute that energy to things that benefit them more than such vices.

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I see what you're saying, and I agree with you somewhat. The problem is that you can't go against human nature. Bette than us have tried, and it was even the one thing they couldn't stop in Orwell's 1984. Women are going to be sluts if they can get away with it (online dating, "travelling"), if not with you, then with with someone else. Telling thirsty men to stay away from easy sex is a fools errand.

While women are not treated - in the eyes of the law and in society - as simply bigger versions of children, they are fully responsible for their own mistakes: the onus and responsibility for their actions rests solely with her. If we were living in an Islamic shithole, then I'd agree with you completely that the onus is on the men.

Finally, I'd retort that pussy is a very powerful motivator: it's the reason most of us got married in the first place. If you need to get in shape, have a good career etc. to support your dating habits, more power to you. I'd argue that it's much more preferable than being celibate but setting into a life of mediocrity because you have no drive or reason to put in any more effort than you need to, to satisfy your hobbies and comforts. Hot women are expensive, and the benefits gained from learning how to date them translate very well to married life when you're ready to settle down.

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It's better to promote value of abstinent men than to insist every woman is a whore.
You seem to be kidding yourself, my friend.

I too observe the sexual nature of the masculine, the dominant dynamic at play. However, "all women are whores" leads men to the doomer or Fallout™ mindset that we desperately need to avoid.
All women aren't whores. Mathematically, there has got to be some just based on how many more women there are than men. Outside of that, women derive their value these days based on how little sex they've had, how little debt they have and how many tattoos they have (well, don't have).