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You should respect yourself.
Promiscuity undoes us all.

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Promiscuity undoes women. Guys can fuck as many women as they want without having to worry about breaking their ability to pairbond. PROVIDED that it doesn't result in children.

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Guys can get stds also.

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Don't drive because you might have a car crash.

Don't draw because you might get a paper cut.

Don't have sex because you might catch an std.

It's a stupid argument.


Don't drive your car wearing a blindfold.

Don't have sex without a condom, wash your peepee before and after, and don't fuck skanks.

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It takes two people to have sex, brainlet.

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That does not refute anything I've said.

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When I grew up this was the norm. But I'm thinking now it wasn't such a good idea.

Stay away from porn. Find good girls if you can.

As for long-term marriage stuff... it's really hard in America IMO unless you're a cuck.

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I ain't signing paperwork. Fuck that

That saddens me. Didn’t used to be like that. On year 35 of marriage with my man. And, yes, I’m a woman. And yes, my man is an alpha.

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Jews (or communist if you prefer) destroyed the nuclear family. Was one of their many vectors of attack agaiinst the U.S. and women lapped it up because, "RAAA! here me roar!" and all that.

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Yeah, I know. Still makes me damn sad. Age affords me the luxury of remembering when it wasn’t so.

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If your goal is to get a girlfriend, one should work on that.

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Yep.
One shouldn't strive to have a partner. One should strive to be a good partner.

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You should never make getting a girlfriend your goal.

Your goal should be to work on yourself - because you value yourself, not because you want a girlfriend - and the girls will come to you.

I agree one should work on themselves, but I'm answering OPs question as it was stated (and either or). Not that the question in itself was a real dichotomy.

However, I'd like to take one from Stephen Covey if I may. Working on yourself is first (becoming 'independent') but working on a relationship will enable the feedback loop of making yourself better through 'interdependence'. Also, companionship is worth something that can reach heights higher than individuality.

Definitely though, nobody should ever measure themselves on how others think about them or whether they have a girlfiend (which is a state of 'dependence').

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Interdependence raises an interesting point. My main issue is that I fail to appreciate any woman as one where any dependence on her, even if it is mutual "interdependence", is a benefit. It's possible that I'm just sexist, but even in this thread, the consensus is that either men are entirely - or equally at best - responsible for promiscuity when it is clear that women hold the keys to sex, as men hold the keys to commitment.

The possible fallacy in my thinking is the assumption that men are better at maintaining the relationship than women, and thus the more power given to the man, the better the relationship will be, and the happier the woman. Of course this is not true, and there are plenty of relationships that I know of that have failed because of the man.

That said, the failure was always because the man was chasing not intimacy, but "love". Once you understand that the love you are searching for is an ideal, an illusion, and ultimately doesn't exist, nor will it ever, once you understand that, the relationship will not fail in that way.

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> “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

> ― Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"

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It depends, do they have big tits?

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Your goal should always be to have a great, fulfilling and meaning full life with purpose. A woman, or women, may compliment your life, but can never be the centrepiece.

Also, the title of girlfriend is a promotion to a girl you're already fucking, and they need to earn it. As many safe fuckbuddies as you want, a few girlfriends, but only ONE mother of your children.

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All answers have good points, even if they seem contradictory.

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Nah. If you find a girl that's quality you should try to steadily date and eventually wife her because you'll find less and less opportunities to find a woman of quality as you get older. Firstly, even though men can date younger women, generally the age of the women you date goes up as you get older. And so does their weight and the number of sex partners they've had. A higher portion of your options will be women who've had a kid or two and a divorce and are looking for a provider (I'm not suggesting you have to go with one of these, but you will lament that 50% of your dating pool is ineligible because of this and it wasn't that way 5 years before).

Basically, don't fuck around and waste time.

Not to mention, if you make your aim to 'fuck a bunch of girls', you will most likely find success in that by focusing on women who are easy and these kinds of women are generally vampires. They want to drain your life force and sabotage your dignity.

Find a nice girl.

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Basically, don't fuck around and waste time.

With women entering the dating scene at a surprisingly young age, by the time they reach 19 they are already pros. You just can't compete.

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I mean yeah but you're a lot better off at 19 than 26. Men just gotta do the best they can.

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You have to shop around when you're young. These people are correct, too much promiscuity in women is bad, but getting laid is of supreme importance to men. If you find an awesome girl, saddle her up. But don't deny yourself before she comes along.

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