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Are we the underdog, the rebels in todays world?

Are we the underdog, the rebels in todays world?

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Poal is closing on 1000 accounts. That being said. This site will NEVER be taken over by a corporate interest. It will not happen ever.

You don't like money?

I believe you; but no matter the strength of your convictions now you can be turned, it's just a matter of amounts and specifics.

If it's not money that controls you, it's fear. We are just meatbags who like fancy things and don't want to suffer.

Even if you are tempted and manage to withstand those temptations; you are a mortal like the rest of us and can only exert your influence over the site as long as you breathe.

Promises are great, but the lesson of reddit is that platitudes don't mean anything in the long run, and even those who you thought took a principled stand on issues that matter can be quick to turn their back when it is convenient or profitable.

Voat, poal, phuks, etc.. these are temporary refuges on a path to a more permanent solution.

This isn't me bitching about Poal, I think this place is doing a great job. It's just a more general rant about the place the internet has come to.

You're fighting the good fight, but we need to end the war.

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Well honestly I don't really like money all that much, I think it does a lot more harm than good in the world. I think the love of money probably explains most of the problems the world has today.

I'm sorry I'll have to disagree that its a matter of amounts and specifics, I've resigned myself to my socioeconomic status and I'm happy where I am. No amount of money is going to make me sacrifice my principles.

You are correct that I can only exert my influence as long as I breathe but should that ever become an issue I already have things setup in such a way that someone that holds my values would succeed me. I'd also advice that person to do that same.

I Just don't see P2P being a viable solution look at bittorrent people believed that was the solution to file sharing and could never be shutdown and it wasn't but governments did huge damage to it. I think this fight needs people standing up and saying no. I don't think P2P can win it in the end.

We are both fighting the good fight but the war is far far from over. Who knows how it will end or if it ever will but we both are standing and fighting.

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The distributed intention behind notabug is brilliant - I basically agree that power corrupts and all these sites can be turned if they take off.

Notabug is not for everyone: Having the vast majority without an identifying label and casting unlimited meaningless votes makes for a real mess that is almost too chaotic to bother with. No doubt you have your own reasons for not attempting a more standard reddit clone with minimal censorship....

Could Poal be distributed? If not, what would need to be done?

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Possibly, but the totally chaotic state of notabug is itself temporary.

There will be moderation features, and in many ways they will resemble a more traditional reddit clone:

https://notabug.io/t/notabug/comments/bc9f5a3864c4735ba71c0abbc7fe4472219dd136/how-moderation-is-going-to-work-on-notabug

But somethings are a consequence of the distributed nature. Most prominent being the way votes work and how anyone can vote as much as they want.

Proof of person is not a solved problem:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoUBI/comments/2v2gi6/proof_of_identityproof_of_person_the_elephant_in/

Until it is, it's not possible to enforce 1 person 1 vote, even in a centralized system really.

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The planned moderation features are experimental. Hopefully they turn out to be functional. I personally won't be using them.

Sure, you can't strictly enforce one-person one-vote. Having labelled accounts with content vote limits at least encourages that though. Notabug basically encourages the opposite.

Most prominent being the way votes work and how anyone can vote as much as they want.

Can you basically describe why this is the case?