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And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers. Thomas Jefferson

And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers. Thomas Jefferson

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It means that you should get on that sick welfare, yo. The economy is a pyramid scheme and you should just let the Indians and Mexicans do all the work. This way, we can all have our cake and eat it too! Just like them fancy Europeans!

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Vote Republican to save the Republic.

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>to save the Republic

Lol To late

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Lets start a centrist party and restart occupy.

That should scare the shit out of the bankers who currently own the two party system for most intents and purposes.

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No thanks. I am capable of governing myself. I don't need an babysitter Even if they lean right

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Vote Republican Confederate to save the Republic.

FTFY. Voting Republican is feeding the already broken republic. Don't feed the two-party system.

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I hope that Bernie wins the Democratic nomination. Trump can beat him over the head with his own past communist/tankie statements, and the Democratic Party would likely lose hard (possibly enough to replace it with a third party). If Biden wins, Trump would be able to run rings around him in debates, but he probably wouldn't lose as hard as Bernie would because of his more centrist (still left leaning) nature.

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This is fucking retarded. Undersign ziocons to save us? Fuck that.

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"A national debt if it is not excessive will be to us a national blessing; it will be powerfull cement of our union. It will also create a necessity for keeping up taxation to a degree which without being oppressive, will be a spur to industry; remote as we are from Europe and shall be from danger, it were otherwise to be feard our popular maxims would incline us to too great parsimony and indulgence. We labour less now than any civilized nation of Europe, and a habit of labour in the people is as essential to the health and vigor of their minds and bodies as it is conducive to the welfare of the State. We ought not to Suffer our self-love to deceive us in a comparrison, upon these points." Alexander Hamilton Wish we had gone thomas Jefferson's way.

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Seriously. Washington should have had Hamilton shot.

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What did Thomas Jefferson mean by this?

Was that a rhetorical question?

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What the fuck does rhetorical mean? You some kind of communist sympathizer?

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A is one that you already know the answer to but you ask it to start a conversation, elicit a response, or to make a point. I suspect you already know what Jefferson meant by that statement but were hoping for someone to chime in.

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