Daughter, yes. Absolutely. Married by 20.
Son, hell fucking no.
Unless he has done EVERYTHING he has ever wanted to do in the world AND is financially stable enough to afford a house and education. Then all he is doing is setting himself up for a life of torture. Him and his partner will both have to work, to pay off that 30 year mortgage on their shitty 2 bedroom house, and will hardly see their kids who live with the grandparents (if lucky), or be raised by the state in kindergarten, school, after school care, etc.
He will have to take the first stable job that comes his way, because all his money is going to the mortgage, as he lives paycheck to paycheck, and he no longer has the power to walk away and find other opportunities, because his family is dependent on him, and it's too great a risk. Then his wife will get pissy at him because there isn't enough money, she cheats or leaves, and he is locked in to serfdom.
When he has himself sorted out, financially set, slept with hundreds of women, then he should find a young (18-20) white girl, from a good family, to have children with (never marry). Set it up so that he doesn't "legally" have any assets or income that could be taken from him in the case of divorce, then he can spend the rest of his time making, raising, and teaching, children with her.
Getting married early as a man, or late as a woman, is a stupid thing to do.
Well put. However, one way I could facilitate my son marrying young would be to build him and his wife a house on my property and allow them to live rent free while they get their shit together. I would still want him to be older than the girl, so I was wrong to say I would be okay with him marrying after high school. Maybe at 25, to an 18/19 year old. And, like you said, after he's banged a bunch of whores and seen the world a little. Then he can take his wife to see the world later down the road.
Thanks for changing my view a bit.
If you did that for your son, it would make you a great parent. I'm just stating my experiences, having not had any financial help from anyone on my side of the family. If you come from a great family that can help support you while you're getting started, then maybe you don't need to wait till 40.
That said, rent free may backfire. If I were ever in that situation, I'd "sell" them a "mortgage" on the property, at something like 50% to 75% of the best offer they can find. Don't do anything official. But make sure that they're paying off the "mortgage", so they have an incentive to work, and won't feel like they're living on your charity. Meanwhile, get them really involved in "helping you" find suitable investment avenues for "your" cash. That "mortgage" is actually just an investment/savings account that you're looking after for them. By the time their children grow up and need their own place, they'll be able to afford it outright from the investment account despite what jobs they have, and the cycle continues.
My grandparents did something similar for my old man. They charged them board to live with them instead of renting. And then when they finally bought a property, my grandparents gave them all the cash that had been paid to them as board.
This is an outstanding idea. Thank you for that. Yeah, I got almost zero help from my family. Maybe a couple hundred bucks when I absolutely had no other choice. They did literally nothing to set me up for adulthood. Fortunately I had the internet to at least learn from.
I know it's a fine line between supporting our kids and coddling them, but I have some time to really think about things and plan them out. I like the idea of charging them a low rent or mortgage, but saving it up for them. It's a mix between support and forcing them to be responsible.
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