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Previously I asked . Some of the answers pointed to trannies/pedos and the power of globohomo as evidence, which I definitely feel is convincingly suggestive of a great force of evil.

I would heap onto this category of suggestive evidence the sort of mass stupidity/foolishness that is so omnipresent that you can barely find anyone in the world who isn't victimized by whatever is causing it. More evil.

I often worry that there's more evidence to suggest a great supernatural evil than there is to suggest a great supernatural good.

Call it God, or the Holy Ghost, or whatever. Maybe there is a pagan equivalent but from what I've seen in those traditions things aren't so dualistic. Do you think that exists? What would you point to as evidence that suggests it does?

Can you believe in Satan (or whatever you want to call it) without God? Though initially it's counterintuitive I would like to hear the argument for why you couldn't...

And now I will ping some people who were involved in the previous discussion: .

edit: And I should've included this originally, but in the previous discussion we settled on a definition of evil (in people), as basically that which contradicts or disrupts a functioning natural order of things.

Previously I asked [what evidence there was to suggest the existence of esoteric forces that influence our world](https://poal.co/s/AskPoal/133266). Some of the answers pointed to trannies/pedos and the power of globohomo as evidence, which I definitely feel is convincingly suggestive of a great force of evil. [I am continuing to use the term suggest instead of prove because I feel it is very unlikely that the existence of supernatural influences will ever be proven.](#spoiler) I would heap onto this category of suggestive evidence the sort of mass stupidity/foolishness that is so omnipresent that you can barely find anyone in the world who isn't victimized by whatever is causing it. More evil. I often worry that there's more evidence to suggest a great supernatural evil than there is to suggest a great supernatural good. Call it God, or the Holy Ghost, or whatever. Maybe there is a pagan equivalent but from what I've seen in those traditions things aren't so dualistic. Do you think that exists? What would you point to as evidence that suggests it does? Can you believe in Satan (or whatever you want to call it) without God? Though initially it's counterintuitive I would like to hear the argument for why you couldn't... And now I will ping some people who were involved in the previous discussion: @TheodoreKent @NotHereFor @GoyGenius @Timmy @WaWhite13. [My limit is 5 pings so sorry if I didn't get you.](#spoiler) edit: And I should've included this originally, but in the previous discussion we settled on a definition of evil (in people), as basically that which contradicts or disrupts a functioning natural order of things.

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Freedom is an illusion. Empowerment is what to strive for. There are always constraints in a system, and a natural order in a system. It's what we can do with and as a part of that system that makes us empowered.

In a sense, we are always both "slave" and "master" to the system, and universe. But we are also in it, and part of it. In this way, we are never master (independent) or servant (dependent) but perhaps both. One must seek interdependence with all to achieve empowerment.

There's a reason we use "right" or "wrong". Like I've told you, words have meaning. Think of "right" as being accurate and "wrong" as being inaccurate.

This is apt. Right, as in righting the ship, or being "on target". Anything that puts "the ship" on a path of not hitting the target is the "wrong" direction and is literally the definition of Sin. This definition of sin you can get from old biblical translations and I realize the true Gnostics were talking about this deeply. "Follow me, I am the way." "The word was Logos" ... This is why being with, and believing in Jesus is our "salvation" which is our empowerment in the universe. For many reading this, I am afraid to say, this means Jesus is not really a person but refers to the natural order. In the new testament is the personification of Logos, which can perhaps also be called THE ALL, or other names.

We are to pursue this Logos, which means to become interdependent with nature, and empowered by it. This is how to defeat (((them))), as (((they))) have rejected Logos and instead seek a bastardized form of order that only fits in a construct of one that lacks purview of nature ... hence (((their))) order is a misalignment, or a SIN from true virtue. This is why they must use GOLD and urgency to herd us to a false morality. This battle will always wage, as what is in (((them))) is also in us, but we are not yet corrupted by it. This is why (((they))) are driven not by love of themselves, but a hatred of an order (((they))) can not understand hence will never have interdependence with. If only (((they))) can remove the data of what is, then the lie that we, goyim are animals untouched by Logos may not be challenged. However, in fact the reverse is true. This is why (((their))) propaganda is still necessary.

I still really enjoy the way you think.

I don't want to be so metaphysical here, but I feel what I am about to say is important for people to read. We found each other because our journeys require us to have friction. This friction yields strength in our psyche. This strength yields empowerment of our souls.

Many years ago I practiced combat arts and I practiced on many teams. The teams that always did the best were the ones that did a great deal of "free wrestling." This iterative friction was agitating and pushed the "cognitive" process of what to do into the "heuristical" effect of pure instinct, until you moved like water. This is part of our journey. There is no "enjoy" per se, but there is salvation. The "great battle" being waged requires this effect to move through as many as possible. Our friction here, is what is necessary to build our power to see beyond the subversion of GOLD and harness the denounced weapon of VIRTUE.

This power is real and as I explained it manifested physically, I have also done the same cognitively through debate and practice. Now I am learning to focus on the potency of my words and of my mind.

You should get back to me on that puzzle I gave you sometime.

I lost track of what the puzzle was... I probably should go back and re-read again. Something comes to mind about the rhyme of a mantra or two ... I may not know the words, but I am starting to pick up the rhythm. WIth refinement (friction!) the words will come.

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Yeshua/Jeshua/Joshua was indeed a real person.
He really liked magic mushrooms, I guess.
What you're aiming at, but can't quite hit the mark of, is Christ Consciousness. He and quite a few other people you're familiar with attained this "ability".

Please understand, this isn't a war between "us" and "jews". "Jews" are just one head of the beast.

Gold is solid light. It carries information, information we can't adequately make any use of.
Gold holds the only real value any"thing" sees in this planet.
Gold is extremely important. It's one of the few things [they] don't let us play with (very much).

this isn't a war between "us" and "jews". "Jews" are just one head of the beast.

I'm (in a way) referring to "those who say they are Jews, but are not"

I think the people we see as "Jews" are most likely "middle management" at best. I was also sticking to the analogy from the bible.

Yeshua/Jeshua/Joshua was indeed a real person.

Maybe, but for what messages we need to get out of the bible, it's irrelevant.

Gold

Are you referring to the lost concept of gold powder ingested? Something about levitation and all seeing, etc.? I came across this somewhere, but lost the reference.

I suppose I interpreted GOLD in a bit of a funny way when I used it. I read it in the protocols, but take it to mean something that isn't necessarily "gold" (or even money) per se, but some shiny thing we vie for ... like social status, or nice muscles, or a new car, or power over others. Virtue I mean as interdependence (or as you say, maybe Christ Consciousness).

But, I don't really think I'm a "Christian" by the standard definition of the word. I may be something totally different.

The power I'm talking about is a necessary awakening to save us from some pretty devastating things. Not many will make it, but in search of spreading "the word" about it, I may be able to learn more from others.

I'm looking at that "puzzle" now.

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Gold can also refer to a state of being, but this one is going to be hard to translate for you, I think. I don't have the firmest grasp of this yet.

Ah, your revision made a lot of sense. It can easily have a specific connotation used in the protocols.

I've liked the term, although I'll label myself exactly nothing, Esoteric Christian.