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or are we going to be stuck like this?

or are we going to be stuck like this?

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[–] • 4 pts

I turned mine off and then back on again.

[–] • 1 pt

amazing how this works with everything.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Haha!

You can do this as well with a soft-reboot by short circuiting their moral NPC software.

[–] • 1 pt

Roofies, you mean?

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

No. I listen to them ... to the point of exhaustion. All the while I exude moral virtues to them by presenting the competing moral stances they provide to me to them at once.

"If the economy is made to serve the population, isn't it in fact fascist to manufacture the population to serve the economy?"

It's the logical/moral equivalent of a short circuit but has to be done in layers.

A roofie would be more like a hardware shutdown/reboot switch. It may keep them quiet for a bit, but it won't red-pill them. Better to just send their own programming to a race condition state to allow them to fix their own software bugs. Of course, it helps if you have new code ready.

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts (edited )

I have. You can't do it with logic, but that's not necessarily a woman problem as much as a human problem. Try this method.

First, follow their logic and be patient, but keep bringing it to the next step of where that logic or morality will lead to (don't jump). Eventually you will hit a prickly spot. Stop there, and keep asking them to help you understand how their stance is helping humanity, your family, or them. They will eventually get tired of being triggered. That is your moment to show them something like . Tell her you want to debunk the whole thing.

Statements like the following go a long way:

"I love you but want to understand"

"I feel the same way, and want to make the best moves I can"

Also, you can short circuit the emotional wiring by presenting paradoxes in statements like:

"I understand why we would want to embrace everybody, but I feel that drag queen story time may be disrespectful to the Muslim immigrants we've invited to live here"

"I agree that we should find out who is most responsible for slavery, let's do the research and find out the people who owned these ships and ran these slave auctions together"

"I agree that you should be more empowered, you must be pro first amendment then, right?"

Be patient, the key is to ride the line of outrage without causing outrage.

FYI, this is how many cults brainwash people. But in your case, you're bringing moral and cognitive crisis to an unbearable place. Then the new programming can go in.

Again, you can't do it with logic. After re-setting them, they'll be open to logic, but not before.

Good luck mate, I hope you're red pilling goes well.

[–] • 2 pts

VERY good stuff. but i'm going to leave out the holocaust bit. were a little at odds on the jewish subject at the moment. I redpilled my father in law. he's had a very public mental break.

[–] • 1 pt

I never drop the JQ as the first thing. I always start with something like central banking.

1: It's not set up to be an argument like say climate change or something.

2: It's tied to the JQ, but you can explain the whole thing without mentioning any of it's participants are of the nose.

3: Central banking is something the average person on both "sides" loathe, though for different reasons. But it's enough to start addressing it.

Once their mind opens up more you can drop a subtle JQ pill. Often times I find they ask the questions themselves, such as "Well why would they do that? Don't they X?" at which point you can start whipping out Talmud quotes and showing their history. People usually recoil at first and try to rationalize some reason why it can't be true, at which point I usually compare it to Islam by saying (paraphrased) "It says X in the Quran and we can point out how dangerous that makes them, don't you think that because it says X in the Talmud we should also be able to point out the dangers of that?" I have learned a lot of techniques over the years. But the number one thing to remember is to ease them in to it, many are not capable of handling a barrage of reality at once, they either will choose to deny all of it at which point they are lost, or they will get mind fucked. I think this quite, from the same movie the redpill term is based on, actually sums it up nicely.

The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I always start with something like central banking.

I've tried this one a few times and should give it a try more. I wasn't successful though but it was possibly too complicated for the conversation and wasn't a mutual topic. With work mates I more often get people either saying "I know" or they don't want to hear it because they invest money in the stock market and don't want me to be "a downer."

Although, that rests on a neutral front that can drum up good conversation. I have brought up: "Hey, did you hear that conspiracy that six of the seven NASA astronauts were apparently spotted after the explosion?"

But the number one thing to remember is to ease them in to it, many are not capable of handling a barrage of reality at once, they either will choose to deny all of it at which point they are lost, or they will get mind fucked.

I agree that you have to hold a front rather than blasting it all in. You can't force it. But, if one rely's on being too slow they tend to never move the needle enough. So, you need a willing partner who is actually truth seeking and willing to believe you and trust you.

During other events, I find I don't get intellectual fairness and just let them talk themselves into a logical paradox and point it out causing something like a cognitive short circuit. That moment in crisis is when they will accept new programming.

But, as you said you have to carefully manage the front. In a way, it's like surfing a huge wave.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

You can maybe try about climate change for starters then. Not sure where she is in her journey.

If you read Mein Kampf, there is a section he talks about tuberculosis and cholera. People won't see the tuberculosis problem (creeping subversion) until it feels like cholera (imminent danger). The red pill can be given on a number of fronts. Could be immigration, gun control, climate change, the world bank (interest and usury), the JQ, dumbing down in in education (also JQ). Find one front she can handle.

There is something else about this though. You have to learn to red pill yourself as well. The key is to learn to reject that which you think you know, but is not verified and accept that things you think are true, may not be. Standing up to "faith" is hard for all of us, and there are seemingly infinite layers of the psyop. I saw this statement on another site that someone said about the Qanon group being "ideologically possessed" and it's pertinent so I thought I'd share it:

The real psyop is that all humans are herd based individuals. (((They))) are primarily hiding this from you, while at the same time herding people toward parasitic things that (((they))) profit from. This is a theme in the protocols and is why people don't wake up to what is going on. Instead of rising above, people move from one set of lies to another. The need to affirm is like heroin.

So, you can see this in the Qanon group. They begin with the accepted assumption that Trump is their Übermensch, and then to keep that assumption they wrap reality around to make things fit with that correlation. Meanwhile (as laid out in the protocols) people accept words for deeds and don't see that any of what Trump is saying is really happening. But, the sugary good feeling that their hero superman is taking out the trash helps them feel better about everything.

Confirmation bias is real, and it's one hell of a drug.

[–] • 1 pt

complete agreement from me. except there is a phenomenon that people aren't factoring in. yes sheep are docile and peaceful. they exist in a high trust society. every once in a while one of their numbers disappears, and it baffles them. so they avoid cognitive dissonance by ignoring the problem. but there is another kind of sheep. rams. big, pissed off rams that don't have much in them in the way of docility. they see the wolves slinking in and out of the shadows and they break the little fuckers spines whenever they catch them. be a ram.

[–] • 1 pt

Like any group of people, there are those that join just to be apart of the group.

Most of us aren't just average retards that can only use FOX as a source.

[–] • 1 pt

Precisely. It's just a teeter totter of rhetoric. Finding the perfect balance is your aim.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

Women are accomodating to men they want to couple with. So they're like "I agree"...like they have no opinions or agency.

[–] • 3 pts

yes. part of the problem is a lot of modern men really aren't worthy of respect.

[–] • 3 pts

It's not just part of the problem... it is the problem.

[–] • 2 pts

Not just women. But you need to be someone worthy of respect.

If you're successful and a good, strong man full of integrity and drive, people will listen to what you have to say - your wife included.

This goes for everything from financial decisions and left-right philosophy, to family matters.

[–] • 0 pt

oh, I am. but the propaganda is strong with this one though. grew up in an estrogen dominant household. 3-1 female to male. she's learning. ive got most of the current drama handled, she's just enjoying the drama for dramas sake now. girls is nuts, but we love them.

[–] • 2 pts

A few good dickings is really all it takes.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

^ If applied correctly, this man is not wrong!

[–] • 1 pt

definitely seems to be a factor.

[–] • 1 pt

Mine has started the deprogramming by working at in hospital admissions. She used to not believe there was the amount of corruption in the MediCal system that I told her there had to be and she's firmly against MediCaire for all now. She swore to me that the ACA/Obamacare was going to be better for us, and now that she works full time because I can't afford to have them covered where I work, she knows they lied.

Can't get her to swallow that jewpill though, we are working on it...she already believes someone else is pulling POTUS's and Congress's strings, but she swears it isn't the jews because they've been persecuted throughout written history. For whatever reason, that causes a hard reset in her programming.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Assuming you're right on the JQ, what about ? It doesn't bash jews at all, but is a 4.5 hour review of some concentration camp and testimony analysis. This one worked for me, but your results may vary.

[–] • 1 pt

That guy is putting me to sleep...lol

Is he doing this after lights out in a federal prison?

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I think he's just mild mannered. Possibly to not spook the ladies watching? :)

Also, it may be to disguise his mannerisms and such, given the material.

On that, how far in have you made it in? Any good critiques of his arguments? Do you have any other good ones? The Europa: The Last Battle (on bitchute) was good but is a bit more "masculine" for some ladies which is why I didn't suggest that one in this thread.

[–] • 0 pt

I'm afraid that's where I am as well.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I know several people who have, but then again they weren't raised in the west so the programming wasn't as severe.

However, women are dangerous manipulative selfish creatures whether they are programmed or not.

[–] • 2 pts

something about your name makes me less inclined to believe anything you say.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Just treat her like a human and respectfully discuss ideas with her. Don't hold things from her because she's a woman or she will resent you. Either she can handle it or she won't.

Whoever you're with has to be willing to learn of course. But you also have to be willing to be proven wrong.

[–] • 0 pt

Install linux on it problem solved

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Some women are hard to find drivers for though, so you have to learn to program in assembler to make it work.

[–] • 1 pt

I told you to not buy that pakistani made laptop, but no, nooooo ho nooo you knew, you knew better and all that

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I'm a female. My now fiance has had good luck deprogramming me. I went from a huge feminist cunt to a submissive housewife material. I hope you poal gentlemen have goodluck deprogramming woman but it takes luck finding a woman willing to be deprogrammed

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

How far are you along the deprogramming?

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

It's going well! Didn't take me much convincing with the hellish weather and dangers of my job. I still have alot of deprogramming to do (I'm addicted to working/making money. I channel that energy into cleaning now) but I'm finally putting actions behind my words and at least getting started on the important parts

My fiance pays my bills now but I really cater to him and do whatever he asks but he is very kind and sweet so it makes it easy to want to Impress him every day :D I've really started paying alot closer attention to my health, and my depression and anxiety has almost gone completely. My goal is to have a body of a goddess before I start having kids.

Things are going very well for me, deprogramming is great for my mental health even if it didn't feel like it at first

[–] • 0 pt

How'd your fiance go about broaching the subject in the beginning? Last relationship I was in I didn't even bother talking about feminism/politics, and I believe that it predictably did not end well.

Not looking to make the same mistake with my next relationship.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

It took him about a year of subtly pushing me in that direction. But I'm a pretty receptive person and I know I'm no genius but I do respect intelegence alot. I have reason to believe my boyfriend is an actual intelectual genuis so I always thought he was very logical and smart. So when he started saying stuff that sounded racist and sexist I really had to look into it myself to see why he would think that way since this was clearly not an emotionally driven ploy.

Good luck finding a chick who's receptive to the red pill. I was actively seeking the red pill before I knew what it was I was looking for. I've always tried to learn and grow and listen to people when they correct me (for the most part) but it seems like alot of woman are not interested in fixing what's wrong with themselves