first part alone. It takes years alone to see where a website is headed. They can start out great for the first 5 years or so alone then start to crash or nose dive especially 5-10 years after it started. So it's hard to know without a long period of time alone. second part just sums up the (((adl))) or (((them))) basically for the most part. ----- Also why I ignore or don't try to get involved in any poal / voat type stuff alone as well as other stuff. See where everything is at 5-10 years down the road or something like this (at least a couple years or so). I try not to get tunnel vision or get a narrow view of something and get stuck in stupidity somewhere down the road. Can get dragged into stupidity really fast on the internet that just isn't even worth it.