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Yom Kippur Sermon 5769

A critical analysis of the Jewish alliance with the Christian Right regarding Israel

By Rabbi Caryn Broitman, Yom Kippur 2008

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>When Menachem Begin became Prime Minister, he made it a point to cultivate relationships with the American religious right. He became good friends with Jerry Falwell, inviting him and hundreds of other evangelical pastors for trips to Israel at the expense of the Israeli government. Falwell responded with endorsements of the Likud Party’s strategy of building Israeli Settlements throughout the West Bank. Begin’s government later gave Falwell his own jet to make his travels to Israel easier.5 Falwell and other leaders of the religious right, including Hal Lindsey, Pat Robertson, and Oral Roberts came through when they were needed by Likud politicians to lobby for their policies. In 1998 when Likud Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu came on a state visit to the United States, his first stop was to see leaders of the religious right, such as Ralph Reed director of the Christian Coalition. “We have no greater friends and allies,” he said to them, than the people sitting in this room.”6

>Netanyahu’s statement may be startling to some, but it does make sense if one’s priority for Israel is to hold on to all the biblical land. They were Netanyahu’s best friends, better friends than President Clinton from that perspective, with whom he was meeting the next day and who was pressuring Netanyahu as well as the Palestinians to meaningfully negotiate. For the Likud party and their supporters, this was a smart political alliance. Liberal objections about the real motives of these Evangelicals were not persuasive. True, these Christian right leaders believed the real significance of the State of Israel was its role in the apocalyptic end-times scenario, which they believed would culminate in the wiping out of most Jews and the conversion of the remaining few. This is deeply problematic and offensive for us as Jews. One could argue, however, that we don’t believe in these visions of the end time anyway, so what do they matter? If we agree on what should happen in this world, why not agree to disagree on what happens in the next.

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https://www.businessinsider.com/11-surprising-things-you-didnt-know-about-mormons-2011-6?IR=T#the-cia-and-the-fbi-have-mormon-recruitment-programs-5

>The CIA and the FBI have Mormon recruitment programs. The apparent incorruptibility of Mormons' moral righteousness make them ideal candidates for the nation's law enforcement and intelligence agencies. Mormons are disproportionately represented in the CIA. A recruiter told the Salt Lake Tribune that returned Mormon missionaries are valued for their foreign language skills, abstinence from drugs and alcohol, and respect for authority.

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https://www.wrmea.org/015-october/the-scofield-bible-the-book-that-made-zionists-of-americas-evangelical-christians.htm

The Scofield Bible—The Book That Made Zionists of America’s Evangelical Christians

“For a nation to commit the sin of anti-Semitism brings inevitable judgement.”

>Two years after Scofield’s reported conversion to Christianity in 1879, the Atchison Patriot was less than impressed. Describing the former Atchison resident as the “late lawyer, politician and shyster generally,” the article went on to recount a few of Scofield’s “many malicious acts.” These included a series of forgeries in St. Louis, for which he was sentenced to six months in jail.

&gtBeing a “born again” preacher did not preclude Scofield from becoming a member of an exclusive New York men’s club in 1901, either. In his devastating biography, The Incredible Scofield and His Book, Joseph M. Canfield suggests, “The admission of Scofield to the Lotus Club, which could not have been sought by Scofield, strengthens the suspicion that has cropped up before, that someone was directing the career of C.I. Scofield.”

&gtThat someone, Canfield suspects, was associated with one of the club’s committee members, the Wall Street lawyer Samuel Untermeyer. As Canfield intimates, Scofield’s theology was “most helpful in getting Fundamentalist Christians to back the international interest in one of Untermeyer’s pet projects—the Zionist Movement.”

&gtOthers have been even more explicit about the nature of Scofield’s service to the Zionist agenda. In “Unjust War Theory: Christian Zionism and the Road to Jerusalem,” Prof. David W. Lutz writes, “Untermeyer used Scofield, a Kansas City lawyer with no formal training in theology, to inject Zionist ideas into American Protestantism. Untermeyer and other wealthy and influential Zionists whom he introduced to Scofield promoted and funded the latter’s career, including travel in Europe.”

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And now, the cherry on the shitcake.... Bottom of page...

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/52432-which-study-bible-do-you-prefer/

>By that definition, I contend that the LDS edition of the Bible is an excellent Study Bible and equal or superior to such great Study Bibles as Thompson or Scofield.

That's right they're still in the loop and not just a little bit...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-23/johnstone-anyone-promoting-regime-change-iran-evil-piece-shit

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https://archive.vn/P5Xza Yom Kippur Sermon 5769 A critical analysis of the Jewish alliance with the Christian Right regarding Israel By Rabbi Caryn Broitman, Yom Kippur 2008 ... >>When Menachem Begin became Prime Minister, he made it a point to cultivate relationships with the American religious right. He became good friends with Jerry Falwell, inviting him and hundreds of other evangelical pastors for trips to Israel at the expense of the Israeli government. Falwell responded with endorsements of the Likud Party’s strategy of building Israeli Settlements throughout the West Bank. Begin’s government later gave Falwell his own jet to make his travels to Israel easier.5 **Falwell and other leaders of the religious right, including Hal Lindsey, Pat Robertson, and Oral Roberts** came through when they were needed by Likud politicians to lobby for their policies. **In 1998 when Likud Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu came on a state visit to the United States, his first stop was to see leaders of the religious right, such as Ralph Reed director of the Christian Coalition. “We have no greater friends and allies,” he said to them, than the people sitting in this room.”6** >>Netanyahu’s statement may be startling to some, but it does make sense if one’s priority for Israel is to hold on to all the biblical land. They were Netanyahu’s best friends, better friends than President Clinton from that perspective, with whom he was meeting the next day and who was pressuring Netanyahu as well as the Palestinians to meaningfully negotiate. For the Likud party and their supporters, this was a smart political alliance. Liberal objections about the real motives of these Evangelicals were not persuasive. **True, these Christian right leaders believed the real significance of the State of Israel was its role in the apocalyptic end-times scenario, which they believed would culminate in the wiping out of most Jews and the conversion of the remaining few.** This is deeply problematic and offensive for us as Jews. One could argue, however, that we don’t believe in these visions of the end time anyway, so what do they matter? If we agree on what should happen in this world, why not agree to disagree on what happens in the next. ... https://www.businessinsider.com/11-surprising-things-you-didnt-know-about-mormons-2011-6?IR=T#the-cia-and-the-fbi-have-mormon-recruitment-programs-5 >>The CIA and the FBI have Mormon recruitment programs. The apparent incorruptibility of Mormons' moral righteousness make them ideal candidates for the nation's law enforcement and intelligence agencies. **Mormons are disproportionately represented in the CIA.** A recruiter told the Salt Lake Tribune that returned Mormon missionaries are valued for their foreign language skills, abstinence from drugs and alcohol, and respect for authority. ... https://www.wrmea.org/015-october/the-scofield-bible-the-book-that-made-zionists-of-americas-evangelical-christians.htm The Scofield Bible—The Book That Made Zionists of America’s Evangelical Christians “For a nation to commit the sin of anti-Semitism brings inevitable judgement.” >>**Two years after Scofield’s reported conversion to Christianity in 1879, the Atchison Patriot was less than impressed. Describing the former Atchison resident as the “late lawyer, politician and shyster generally,”** the article went on to recount a few of Scofield’s “many malicious acts.” These included a series of forgeries in St. Louis, for which he was sentenced to six months in jail. >&gtBeing a “born again” preacher did not preclude Scofield from becoming a **member of an exclusive New York men’s club in 1901**, either. In his devastating biography, The Incredible Scofield and His Book, Joseph M. Canfield suggests, “The admission of Scofield to the **Lotus Club**, which could not have been sought by Scofield, strengthens the suspicion that has cropped up before, that someone was directing the career of C.I. Scofield.” >&gtThat someone, Canfield suspects, was associated with one of the club’s committee members, the **Wall Street lawyer Samuel Untermeyer**. As Canfield intimates, Scofield’s theology was “most helpful in getting Fundamentalist Christians to back the international interest in one of Untermeyer’s pet projects—the Zionist Movement.” >&gtOthers have been even more explicit about the nature of Scofield’s service to the Zionist agenda. In “Unjust War Theory: Christian Zionism and the Road to Jerusalem,” Prof. David W. Lutz writes, “Untermeyer used Scofield, a Kansas City lawyer with no formal training in theology, to inject Zionist ideas into American Protestantism. Untermeyer and other wealthy and influential Zionists whom he introduced to Scofield promoted and funded the latter’s career, including travel in Europe.” ... And now, the cherry on the shitcake.... Bottom of page... http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/52432-which-study-bible-do-you-prefer/ >>By that definition, I contend that the LDS edition of the Bible is an excellent Study Bible and equal or superior to **such great Study Bibles as Thompson or Scofield.** That's right they're still in the loop and not just a little bit... https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-23/johnstone-anyone-promoting-regime-change-iran-evil-piece-shit https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/1_QvEGzI1sOwxBt2R8Fekm8w.png

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At this point I'm not sure what's the end game behind the Qshit

Worst case scenario would be something like putting american christians, zionist christians, under some sort of a literal mystic trance, with the complicity of key religious authorities ultimately

In the perspective of a holy war for israel, against iran

With mass manipulation stuffs on the way, such as self-fulfilling prophecies, but the heavy load this time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy

Imagine the psychological disaster for those who quit Q, thinking it's bs, and bang, one day live on national audience, you have a prediction coming true, like a major one, totally staged. Total relapse they are done, on par with an ex heroin addict getting a top quality shot

They swallowed entire loads of meaningless shit already, so imagine how high they'll jump once you put the real shit "on the market"

Needless to mention the hardcore fans, it's going to be the consecration

The absolute horror socially speaking, it's going to get super contagious among christians even beyond the USA, and nobody will be able to reason them, it's going to be pure blind faith they'll turn 1000000% irrational like jesus spoke to them or some shit

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That's the worst case of militarized scenario I can think of, mass hysteria, mystico-religious crisis/hysteria, unstoppable, fanatization of christians, the absolute horror

Like they all hand their own kids to die for israel because they all saw the virgin mary or some shit nobody but them can understand

Few things scare me and that's one of them because I know if this is well done, there's nothing you can do to change their mind

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In 2, 3 maybe 5 years down the road who knows

This whole qshit could very well be a psychological timebomb with a very long fuse, so idk

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At this point I'm not sure what's the end game behind the Qshit

It's a holding pattern. It's literally like snake oil. Problems are abound, and it's a subversive guide process for those who can't shake those naggly questions about the paradoxes going on around them. Some information is presented that;s good, but it's meant to just keep people from reading other good books like Mein Kampf, 200 years together, the Kalergi Plan docs, or asking anything about the JQ. It keeps people from asking about where the immigrants are coming from, why are the troops still in the middle east, and why is their government acting so strangely. Hints of a pedophile ring (which seem to be true) and a few C level actors are arrested in the conspiracy, but still no other higher ups arrested.

There are real conspiracies, but if you astroturf some, get wads of people to support them (or the appearance of) and then discredit them, you can point the same finger at anyone who points to any conspiracy. Here are a couple more: Alex Jones, purpose is to discredit gun advocates (make them look crazy); Flat Earth, purpose is to discredit science skeptics (vaccines) and climate change.

Meanwhile, more anti-BDS laws, same silencing of conservatives, same abuse of MAGA supporters, same extraction of resources to Israel, same illegal surveillance, same creep on 2A.

These kinds of things are standard propaganda techniques. The reason they seem so "crazy and deep" is because we often don't consider how easy it is for us to be lied to. People are literally like sheep. They rarely validate (this is an important thing) anything.

I know this may sound crazy-town to hear, but literally almost everything told to you is not validated but accepted. For example, why did we go to WW1? WW2? Did the hall of costs happen? Did white people steal natives land? Are nuclear weapons real? Are vitamins good for you? Is fluoride good for your teeth? Is circumcision actually healthier?

Lies, wrapped in lies, wrapped in lies, wrapped in lies.

Qanon is just another layer of lies to make people feel good about MAGA. No validated stuff, just cleverly placed conjecture ... like climate alarmism.

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>I know this may sound crazy-town to hear, but literally almost everything told to you is not validated but accepted.

It probably sounds crazy from a "carebare" perspective. Needless to say not from "mine" I'm no carebare

That said nuclear weapons are real to me, tsar bobma wasn't tnt for instance, to be clear, because 57,000,000 tons of tnt

>Qanon is just another layer of lies to make people feel good about MAGA. No validated stuff, just cleverly placed conjecture ... like climate alarmism.

Maybe, but then given the obvious ziokike presence around the whole MAGA thing... Idk, it could be just that, and more

I guess time will tell

real to me

This is mysticism. The powers that be "report" a lot of shit. Always doubt. Here is who claims maybe things aren't quite as dangerous as we are told. Here is to bring a little bit of doubt (do not skip the first portion of that video, it's only 15 min or so). It's a tough one to consider, I know, and it's important to consider the alternatives and what history really means if the information provided is not quite true. They show video after video after video, and have a bunch of scientists (mostly Jewish) saying they are real, but consider who can really validate that? How is it that this "secret" technology keeps ending up in the hands of assholes (USSR, China, Pakistan, India, etc)? Is it possible that these countries are just giving each other a nod of the fear based machine?

Consider nuclear power is real, but not as dangerous as (((they))) say. Consider the fission mechanism ... is it "explosive"? To get critical mass, you get a large radiative pulse (real), but is it explosive? Does it really last 100s of years? What advantage would (((they))) have if everyone stays scared? How many people really would have to be in the know? Why hasn't something happened with them with all the shit going on? Is it possible there is a weapon effect in a weapon sense, but it's just not as scary as (((they))) want you to think so you don't question (((them))).

Not concluding anything, just doubting. Doubt everything. Look up Type-I and Type-II error and consider the scientific process - knowledge is the process of rejection, but the error always exists that the tests taken as binary rarely are (there's always a third hypothesis). The creeps that run society don't play fair with information and fake shit all the time - this is an example of fear based programming. It's important to note that doubting is not the same thing as concluding.

Maybe, but then given the obvious ziokike presence around the whole MAGA thing... Idk, it could be just that, and more

It's definitely ziokike involvement (high percentage). But, keep in mind it's all non-validated information. If they're working on the pedo ring and there's a coup going on (most likely both true to some extent), just release the information and population will make sure it's fixed. All the "trust the plan" crap is like the Catholic "trust god, he will judge in heaven" stuff that makes people not make justice happen in this plane of existence. It's hopeium, which makes people "wait and see" while the disease creeps along. It's like saying "I can quit smoking anytime" meanwhile it's slowly killing them, but they get that yummy nicotine - it's not logical. Consider Hitler's cholera vs. tuberculosis argument in Mein Kampf. This idea is very real, and a serious problem with the human psyche which is mostly why everyone around is "asleep."