They're fantastic at punching through car doors and windshields as well. Either way I'm carrying a .380 now as my daily. Little pocket rocket.
I too, carry 9mm kurz. I can nail them in one on top of another with .380, but 9x19 is a bit tougher to shoot accurately.
There is better shit out there but some hydra-shok is some all round goodness.
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