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Why not just carry hollow points and carry a marked mag with AP ammo? 9mm can do it all and almost zero crimes apprehended have body armor involved.

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They're fantastic at punching through car doors and windshields as well. Either way I'm carrying a .380 now as my daily. Little pocket rocket.

I too, carry 9mm kurz. I can nail them in one on top of another with .380, but 9x19 is a bit tougher to shoot accurately.

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There is better shit out there but some hydra-shok is some all round goodness.