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So over the past few days I have noticed and involved in a bit of drama with people using the downvote button as and I don't like you button or an I disagree button. This really saddens me. I don't like seeing it. I think the downvote button should be for spam or things that are irrelevant. Thats what I think we should use it for. If you disagree make an argument. If you just hate a user why not ignore them or even block them. Please don't try to censor them. Everyone here deserves to have free speech. Even the people you don't like. Even the people you disagree with. Without free speech, what do we have? Without it we have fallen. I don't accept that we have fallen. I think we have ascended to a point where everyone has a voice. No matter what their opinion. The free market of ideas will show what are the best ideas. Don't let yourself fall into the habit of trying to censor ideas you don't like your arguments will do that better than any vote could.

So over the past few days I have noticed and involved in a bit of drama with people using the downvote button as and I don't like you button or an I disagree button. This really saddens me. I don't like seeing it. I think the downvote button should be for spam or things that are irrelevant. Thats what I think we should use it for. If you disagree make an argument. If you just hate a user why not ignore them or even block them. Please don't try to censor them. Everyone here deserves to have free speech. Even the people you don't like. Even the people you disagree with. Without free speech, what do we have? Without it we have fallen. I don't accept that we have fallen. I think we have ascended to a point where everyone has a voice. No matter what their opinion. The free market of ideas will show what are the best ideas. Don't let yourself fall into the habit of trying to censor ideas you don't like your arguments will do that better than any vote could.

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[–] • 4 pts

you have a point. I'm not sure what to do with it but you have a point.

[–] • 3 pts

That's why I brought it up. The topics like that discussed here were all discussed on Voat before the big migrations. I remember I even had a sub dedicated to keeping tabs on the trolls/spammers (before protect voat). That was great when it was small. When the hordes came, it was all bets off though as they brought folks like sanegoat, amalek and empireofthemind etc. Even before the paid shills.

One thing I think Voat did right was the janitor role. If that had been coupled with a better flagging system (like I kinda went into) I think it had a shot at succeeding. And I think it did for a while. But ultimately the lack of admin leadership just killed every good initiative over there. Like the whole subverse transfer drama. moe (young girl anime weirdo) did it for a while but when he left, no one picked it up.

Same with cynabuns doing the janitor role for system subs. When she (they) disappeared, no one stepped up. I don't think anyone could step up with MIA admins.

Lots and lots of good lessons to learn from the growth and ongoing demise of Voat.

[–] • 3 pts

agreed. Lots of lessons to learn. The same will not happen here.

[–] • 3 pts

Putt killed our (as spam janitors) momentum by ignoring our calls for help. That’s why voat is what it is today.

[–] • 1 pt

Things were going seemingly good for a while, but people get tired of being ignored and move on. Voat lost a lot of good people that way. I think perhaps our migration has spurred putt back into development. We'll see. All the development in the world cannot replace an admin who is on all the time though....