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So over the past few days I have noticed and involved in a bit of drama with people using the downvote button as and I don't like you button or an I disagree button. This really saddens me. I don't like seeing it. I think the downvote button should be for spam or things that are irrelevant. Thats what I think we should use it for. If you disagree make an argument. If you just hate a user why not ignore them or even block them. Please don't try to censor them. Everyone here deserves to have free speech. Even the people you don't like. Even the people you disagree with. Without free speech, what do we have? Without it we have fallen. I don't accept that we have fallen. I think we have ascended to a point where everyone has a voice. No matter what their opinion. The free market of ideas will show what are the best ideas. Don't let yourself fall into the habit of trying to censor ideas you don't like your arguments will do that better than any vote could.

So over the past few days I have noticed and involved in a bit of drama with people using the downvote button as and I don't like you button or an I disagree button. This really saddens me. I don't like seeing it. I think the downvote button should be for spam or things that are irrelevant. Thats what I think we should use it for. If you disagree make an argument. If you just hate a user why not ignore them or even block them. Please don't try to censor them. Everyone here deserves to have free speech. Even the people you don't like. Even the people you disagree with. Without free speech, what do we have? Without it we have fallen. I don't accept that we have fallen. I think we have ascended to a point where everyone has a voice. No matter what their opinion. The free market of ideas will show what are the best ideas. Don't let yourself fall into the habit of trying to censor ideas you don't like your arguments will do that better than any vote could.

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Not necessarily if setup correctly.

Example:

Have similar to janitor role here. Can only delete items that have been flagged by say more than 1 user. Deleted items go into publicly viewable log of deletions. Cannot mark something themselves then delete it. Of course someone could create multiple accounts, but if / when that type of activity was identified, then an active admin steps in and removes the janitor role. I would not call it a janitor role either. What a shitty degrading name for an important role. How about "Thankless Savior of Poal" or similar?

With the community vigilant then we should be looking at two people needing to review something before it's deleted. Go a step further and add an admin queue into that. Flagged by user / flagged by Savior / ultimately deleted by admin. That would be a great idea for the Savior trial period to make sure they are legit.

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That sounds like a possible solution. Obviously this is a problem with most sites. Putt has wrestled with this kind of user control for months. It was discussed with a lot of people on the preview site and seems to be quite more involved than one might think. It will take more discussion here to develop what will work on this site.

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To illustrate further. And yes, I know this would mean a shit ton of code and logic....

Now it has "permalink reply source" at the bottom. You could add "spam irrelevant". Clicking spam or irrelevant flags that post into either the spam or irrelevant queue for the Savior. Savior then reviews his/her queues to see if said posts / comments are violations Poals rule or TOS. If so, they then flag for admin. Then admin reviews and ultimately decides if the post stays or goes. Add in 1 more role for Sub admin or something that is an unsupervised savior. One who has proven themselves to be fair and legit. Then the queue no longer passes through admin. That would be a viable setup for future growth when admins are too busy to review every flagged post.