I could argue the downvoting is a form of free speech. Beatlejuice was here earlier calling a user a pedophile and slandering him in posts. Should we argue with a miserable person who thrives on drama andnhas no compunctions about lying? You could get rid of the down vote button. Hell you could implement a system that pushes most commented posts to the top. All system can and will be abused. We have been conditioned by many sites before this to use up as agree/like down as disagree/dislike. Blocking a sub/person is also a free speech block, it takes away your ability to hear something you disagree with. You should make a site sticky for suggestions on a a better alternative to up/down voting.
Anyone who posts the 1990, Paul Simon mang, pics of assholes bs 20 times a day should (at least) be downvoted. No point in giving them any attention.
Honestly if Pmyb2 is going to try the appeasement route with them I might as well hang out on voat... oh wait putt did that and now even he hates his site as much as me.
I could argue the downvoting is a form of free speech. Beatlejuice was here earlier calling a user a pedophile and slandering him in posts.
This is what I use down votes for.
Mostly.
Honestly the solution has to involve people. It has to be people like you and me that make it work. We can rely on admins or mods to get rid of toxic influences or we can argue against them. I can't fix it as much as I wish I could. The only way the SRS problem here gets fixed if there even is an SRS problem. Is if people like you make the arguments against them. Arguments are what decides the fate of the site. Left vs Right. SJW vs Alt right. these are the arguments that decide the truth. Its all in you the users hands.
That works on a small site where people know one another by username and posts. It fails as a site gets larger and you can create false consensus. Most people don't want to hear both sides because we are so damn sure we are right. On dakon I down voted beatlejuice for calling another poster a pedophile and his few other bullshit posts. Am I supposed to waste time arguing with someone like that? I agree with you in spirit and mostly in practice but some people just aren't worth arguing with
Another problem is burn out trying to point out that someone is a shill every single time. Trying to form a well worded and logical response to how they are shilling. Then your reply getting zero attention, just because it is too long to read.
I remember on Voat, when SBBH and SDBH came around, people were saying that it was SRS shitting up the place. Sure enough I didn't read it, didn't really notice the issue till half a year ago.
Because of the issue, some of some of the most dedicated and content creating users walked away from the platform. Leaving Voat a cesspool, without logical discourse, mindlessly sucking off everything that was a confimation bias.
If I see SRS here, I will downvote them. They are not here to create thought provoking discourse. Only to forum slide and gas-light all over the site.
Honestly. I would say yes waste you’re time on the argument. Becuase when other people look at it it isn’t a waste of time. Sure it might not get a lot of people thinking but even if it gets one isn’t it worth it? If you can change one persons mind and wake them up to reality haven’t you succeeded? I haven’t seen the behavior from beetle you have a problem with and honestly I’m glad I haven’t I don’t need anymore enemies I have plenty. However if you could just blow a argument out of the water you win right? I think above all things argument wins.
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