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So over the past few days I have noticed and involved in a bit of drama with people using the downvote button as and I don't like you button or an I disagree button. This really saddens me. I don't like seeing it. I think the downvote button should be for spam or things that are irrelevant. Thats what I think we should use it for. If you disagree make an argument. If you just hate a user why not ignore them or even block them. Please don't try to censor them. Everyone here deserves to have free speech. Even the people you don't like. Even the people you disagree with. Without free speech, what do we have? Without it we have fallen. I don't accept that we have fallen. I think we have ascended to a point where everyone has a voice. No matter what their opinion. The free market of ideas will show what are the best ideas. Don't let yourself fall into the habit of trying to censor ideas you don't like your arguments will do that better than any vote could.

So over the past few days I have noticed and involved in a bit of drama with people using the downvote button as and I don't like you button or an I disagree button. This really saddens me. I don't like seeing it. I think the downvote button should be for spam or things that are irrelevant. Thats what I think we should use it for. If you disagree make an argument. If you just hate a user why not ignore them or even block them. Please don't try to censor them. Everyone here deserves to have free speech. Even the people you don't like. Even the people you disagree with. Without free speech, what do we have? Without it we have fallen. I don't accept that we have fallen. I think we have ascended to a point where everyone has a voice. No matter what their opinion. The free market of ideas will show what are the best ideas. Don't let yourself fall into the habit of trying to censor ideas you don't like your arguments will do that better than any vote could.

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In the case of the abused vote buttons I suggest the simplest approach is best. Any system is going to be abused. You could spend a year crafting an ingenious system, and it'll be gamed.

But, here are some random thoughts on these systems.

Users should accrue no points, at all period. A submission or thread within would still rise or sink depending on votes. But the submitter would get no points for submitting, nor commenters commenting. This kills the point farmers.

I also sort of like the idea that views and activity should also be accounted for. If thread A is viewed 10 times but no one comments vs thread B being viewed 10 times and has 5 comments, B should rise above A. Thread B has more activity.

But in the end I don't think theres a way to solve this issue. Points will be farmed, the DV button will be used to dislike someone.

People will be people, especially in large groups where popularity is a driver.

I don't think I'm making a coherent overall point. I don't think there is a good solution.